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Kegel excercises strength the vaginal muscle so there is less tearing during birth. Caffiene is a personal choice but DIET COKE not to freak you out but they have done studies on aspartame ( which is used in diet coke) with causing problems in the development of babies. Pot I am not sure of the long term effects of pot but I work with young children birth to 5 years and I have seen the effects of withdrawal and your baby is defiantly going to go through withdrawal when born which will cause one cranky unhappy crying more than usual newborn I have also seen first hand effects of brain damage of those who smoked early in pregnancy. Not trying to rain on anyones parade I have my fast food fix twice a month and on occassion opt for a shake instead of fat free frozen yogurt. If you want a sugar substitute splenda is a better option. ↓
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| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 7:17 PM |
| It is true that that some babies will be affected but not all. I drank Diet Pepsi through out my pregnancy with my son. And I am not talking about the occassional 12oz. can of soda. I would drink at least 2 of the 20oz. bottles and my son is very heathly and his developement was not affected. I never smoked pot in my entire life. Cirgrette smoking also can affect some babies but again not all. I am currantly pregnant with my second and I have drank Diet Pepsi through out this pregnancy, not as much as with my son only because this time around my diet is completely different. I am actually eating alot better then I did with my son. When I was pregnant with my son we ate out alot, I barely cooked at home and when I did it was a frozen meal not one that you had to prepare. I cook alot more with this pregnancy and go out for dinner only occassionally. And I have changed from using surgar to using splenda. ↑ |
| Name: emilymccoy | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 7:48 PM |
| We don't have to defend ourselves. That is why is was called "CONFESSION TIME." You don't typically feel the need to "confess" things you are doing right. We know we are not doing things entirely appropriately, and it helps to know that no one is perfect. I'm sure we're all aware of the possible consequences of our mistakes as we make them, as well, but until you walk in that one person's shoes, you don't know how it feels to them to make that mistake, and how hard it is to NOT do it. We've all seen unfortunate things happen to children whose parents did this and that, and we've also all seen unfortunate things happen to children of "PERFECT" parents. We have enough to worry about on a daily basis when it comes to our unborn children-- we don't need to beat ourselves up over every little decision we make, and that was what the thread was all about...get it out and over with. Thanks for the "information" but not too many of us come off as ignorant, and we don't need to be told that we should feel bad. ↑ |
| Name: AnnD | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 8:04 PM |
| I'm glad that you are looking out for us and our babies. However, my belief is that most of us are aware of what Kegel exercises are, which is why I chose to put them on my confession thing....because I'm not doing them and I'm sure my vaginal muscles will suffer the consequences if I have a vaginal delivery. And I don't doubt you a bit when you say that aspartame is harmful, I have heard that and I'm sure it is for any living creature. But, I don't believe any person's baby on here will have aspartame-related tragedies. And I'm pretty sure (but not 100%) that I've heard negative things about Splenda as well, that there is no way for your body to get rid of it naturally, so it can stay in your system for a looonog time. But, don't quote me on that, I'm not totally sure. I think all mommies make mistakes and it begins early on. I know that I shouldn't have fast food as much as I do and I feel guilty about it. But the point of the the thread was for comfort, to know that I wasn't alone and I wasn't going to have challenged baby because of it, since so many women out there struggle with the same things I am. It gives me comfort to know that. ↑ |
| Name: jillw | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 8:15 PM |
| sally I personally agree with everything that you are saying and I am sure that most of the women on here do, but that thread was not about eduaction or judgement. All women on this forum give very good advise and are pretty educated about what is and is not harmful. I know that smoking pot puts you are a much greater risk of having a child with ADHD, but I was not ask for that advice. No one came on that thread and said "Help I smoke weed everyday and I can't stop" it was a place to vent our short comings look at them and either have a chuckle or see where we need to improve. I am sure that I speek for many of the women on her when I say that we try very hard to keep this site form becoming like the other foums where there is name calling hateful words and judgemental people. We all support each other. I think that you post has very valad points and should be heard, but not as an attack on a post where people shared things that they may not have even told their best friends. If you want to give advice post a topic about "advice" or "effects of drugs on a baby" and state you facts. I believe that would be much less attacking then you above post. Don't do the I am better than you because I only eat fast food once a month thing because it is not being helpful. For all you know there may be a person who used to eas fast food 3 times a day and now only does it 3 times a week. I think that is making a big change for their baby and should be encuraged. ↑ |
| Name: Kristy84 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 8:48 PM |
| Wow, this post kinda came out of nowhere. Haven't I seen you on the ED website? Obviously an eating disorder isn't ideal during pregnancy. As for the pot issue, I haven't smoked in over 22 weeks, so if my child was going through "withdrawls", which if you were an "expert" you'd understand are only psychological, then you would realizize that she isn't. We're not perfect and I don't understand why you had to write such a condescending post. Yeah I'm pregnant and cranky and sick of other women sitting on their high horse behind their computers. Why don't you start picketing in front of a busy road so every can know how absolutely perfect you are. A for Splenda Sally, once again, the research isn't conclusive and could end up being very harmful. UGH!!! This was an annoying f****ing post!! ↑ |
| Name: AnnD | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 10:19 PM |
| I would like to thank jillw. You made excellent points about someone going from eating fast food 3x a week and lowering down to 3x a month. No person is perfect and for a person to make drastic changes like to cut their smoking use down is very difficult and they should be praised for the progress they've made. I think that was a very good point and wanted to thank you for making such a good point. ↑ |
| Name: mommyagain | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 10:32 PM |
| I cant even post on this or I might really piss someone off. Ok thats all I will say! ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 10:33 PM |
| why do i feel like im at like an AA meeting with this post? like the other women said, while what you said is useful, most of us already know this stuff, we confessed to it b.c it bugs us, but if you didnt notice, almost every woman here confessed to something. we're human, we're not perfect. we make decisions that may be harmful to ourselves and our babies but the risk of quitting some of these things can also be very harmful. i was told directly by my midwife that quitting smoking b.c i was a heavy smoker before pregnant that it could cause alot of stress on the baby and that was worse than the smoking. but i seriously feel like im at some sort of crisis meeting lol .. ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 10:55 PM |
Lol.. seems like I've been doing this all day, but I just have to defend AA first off.... that is NOT what we sound like. (just kidding with you coartney - I know what you meant)
I'm so tuckered out of debate I can't even start.... Sally- you knew that thread was for us to commiserate in things we knew were wrong, and things that we were well aware of the effects of but indulged in anyway... that was the point. But thank you for restating everything that was said in a condescending manner - proclaiming your own holiness and vast knowledge. I'm sure all of us will really repent our evil ways now that we've heard it from you, the 1,001st person. Thanks a bunch. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 10:58 PM |
| damn nicole, im in tears laughing right now! and haha i know ive been to AA/NA meetings before with a friend of mine, he didnt want to go alone, even after going for years. and my stepdads family up in our old town in massachusetts, started AA, gee who would have thought my stepdad would have been an alcoholic years later? HAHA.. ur funny though. :-D ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:06 PM |
lol. Now I'm confused at which part of what I said you're laughing at Coartney... if it was the jab at Sally than it's probably because I'm so freaking tired of this going back and forth that when she posted something so obviously assanine it's just.... UGH... why don't we all just get into a big metal cage and beat eachother with sticks?
P.S. On the Sally list of wrong-doings.... you left out heroine (which was mentioned in past tense - but all the same). You might want to tell them that heroine use isn't very good for a pregnancy either. Just so we make sure nobody is left living in ignorance. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:09 PM |
| omfg nicole. can i borrow ur balls, mine seem to have shrunk lol .. metaphor dont kill me haha ↑ |
| Name: a.philo_3ks | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:24 PM |
| First i think the confessions was just for some fun and everyone has differnt beliefs and reasons for what they do and dont do. i never did a kegel exercise with either of my sons and they we 8-10 and 9-1 and i never torn no epi with either and i and 5'6 and 120 pre pregnancy so i personally dont know how much validity there is in kegel exercises. i smoked with they boys were both full term and are healthy and had plenty big enough birth weight. i dont drink diet never have. i still drink pepsi though everyday. i eat fast food all the time this time around i am at work to much and always eat everything i bring and am still hungry. ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:24 PM |
| Lol. After all my negative engery is worked out from the "Addiction: Is it a choice?" posts then you can borrow them as long as you'd like. Just return them in the same condition you borrow them in. ;) I made need them again if anyone would like to start an argument about how much age difference is inappropriate between spouses... with the way this is going today that will probably be next. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:26 PM |
| nicole do you have amyspace? or a babycrowd journal? or any type of isntant messenger? ↑ |
| Name: mommyagain | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:47 PM |
| Thank you girls you said it all for me. I dont have the energy to fight right now. I am busy working my ass off for another night shift... but I will back up the smoking thing. I smoked with Kenzie too and my doctor told me quitting would be worse... if i couldnt quit cold turkey with no withdrawls. she had a heart problem before she was born and every smoke I had I cried I knew it wasnt helping yet I just couldnt quit and the stress about worry about it just made it harder on her. So yes we know it is bad but we are not perfect and no one has ever claimed to be. ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:51 PM |
| I have MSN messenger Coartney. [email protected] ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:01 AM |
| haha the one messenger service i dont have lol damnit i suck. i guess its time i download msn messenger lol ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:06 AM |
Add me when you get it downloaded. I don't know where you're at - but it's 5:00 here, so I might not get to chat with you very long on there - if at all today. Paul gets home at 5:30 and I do my usual and pretend I wasn't online most of the day. We have an AA meeting to be at right after dinner so I better get my act together and start getting ready.
I'll be on in the morning though, like always, if I don't catch ya. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:07 AM |
| its 8pm here and im usually up all night, especially with this toothache. sucks though b.c my computer wont allow me to download msn messenger LOL ↑ |
| Name: nicole jones1 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:10 AM |
| Do you have AIM? I guess I could just download that. Yahoo never works for me though, so I hope you don't have that one. ↑ |
| Name: Randi02 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:13 AM |
| Sally24 I don't know if you looked down further, but after the confessions post another one was started. It was called "confess this!" and pretty well everyone who posted on the "bad confessions" post, posted again on this one. The difference was it was all the things we are proud of ourselves for. We all have shortcomings and things that we find hard to give up or things that don't seem as important, but on this other post we shared things we have learned, gotten good at (like peeing into cups lol) or challenges we have overcome (drinking problems, smoking or other addictions) Nobody in here is intentionally putting their unborn baby in danger. I am new to this forum, but these women are honest, open and are all going to be or already are great mothers. Nobody here deserves to be critisized for things they already feel badly or are embarassed about. I'm sure you have slipped up too...everyone has. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 12:14 AM |
| yeh my AIM is fatallyyourscs im ALWAYS on lol unless my cable goes out. but yeh i have yahoo too but only for my fiance b.c he hasnt caught on to using aim yet lol ↑ |
| Name: AnnD | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 1:06 PM |
| I'm sorry I keep adding to this post, but I just keep coming up with thoughts about it. I've always concluded that each parent has their own set of strengths and weaknesses. One parent might not have a lot of money to give their kid piano lessons and horse-back riding lessons but is an excellent nurturer. Another parent might smoke, but only eats organic and natural foods without preservatives and stuff. I guess what I'm trying to say, it evens out most of the time. There are many different paths to raising a healthy, happy and beautiful child and not one is more "right" or "wrong" than the other. We do what we can and in the best way that we can. I know each woman on this board (those of us who drink Diet Coke on a daily basis down to tose of us who feels guilty for having a cigarette at lunch time) have one thing in common, we LOVE our babies more than anything. And we would do anything we can for them within our weaknesses and limitations. All we can do is our best and kids don't even expect that. Kids need to see their parents have weaknesses so they can learn the best ways to deal with their own. ↑ |
| Name: Stacy | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 5:10 PM |
| Name: VeggieMom2B | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 5:36 PM |
live in California, and know a lot of people who smokes Marijuana for medical purposes. I know physically you cannot get addicted to pot only psychologically. I know people who evaporized (spell?), means they puff threw a filter that screens the smoke and bring out only the THC (the part that helps you feel better) and that spouse to make it much cleaner. Personally I have nothing against pot. I believe it is much safer then to take the chemical medication the dr prescribes for women who feel sick and negated (spell?). I know lost of women that smoked pot during their pregnancies, and they kids came out fine! It has been known for years that pot is not like all the other drugs. It is more like a natural medison but the government for some reason is unwilling to except this so they saying wrong things about it to try to scare people. I personally do not smoke it but have no problem if a woman who feels so sick, and cannot even eat, if she took some rather then the medication the dr will prescribe her.
* Sorry, English is not my first language so I hope you can understand with all the misspelling :) ↑ |
| Name: mommyagain | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 5:41 PM |
| Looks like we just couldnt let this go huh.. ↑ |
| Name: jillw | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 6:14 PM |
| well since the SAHM crowd seemed to be having a hard time finding it I am sure that they are glad to have it back on pg 1 LOL ↑ |
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