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| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:19 PM |
| quote: Chat Rooms are NOT places for adoptive parents to solicit birthparents. It is not appropriate for hopeful parents to post “I can help” messages, or internet addresses for birthmothers to visit, or to send this type of e-mail to birthmothers. ************** THESE ARE NOT THE RULES PLACED ON THIS FORUM!!! If they were, we would live by them! And AGAIN, I ask, how many children have you adopted? What brought you to this forum? OHH thats right, you are the "adoption in chat room, police chief," that aparently knows NOTHING about adoption!!! MY bad! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:21 PM |
| My advice eliminates a lot of risks of trusting strangers on the internet. Especially when a child is involved. ↑ |
| Name: Luann | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:25 PM |
| Luckey must be a previous birthmother who found parents on internet and now is mad. Or maybe she's just bored and wants someone to harass. Let's stop responding to her and fighting with her and perhaps she, like so many others, will just slide back under her rock. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:32 PM |
| Oh Luann, You are right! She has gotten under my skin! Yes Luckey, you are the pimple on my butt right now! Not for what you are trying to do....its great you want to protect people. You just need to learn about adoption a little more before you start giving advise! When people open their mouth, they should know what they are talking about. I feel sorry for you, that you have NO trust in people! No trust in the adoption Legal system, to protect these babies! I have a handsome baby bot, that needs me right now. Yes, he is adopted, and yes, his first mom found us on the NET! What a blessing it has been! Jody ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:33 PM |
| I find it very interesting that some people have chosen an unhosted forum to seek birthmothers. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:45 PM |
| Quote: I find it very interesting that some people have chosen an unhosted forum to seek birthmothers. ******** Well, you can ask my son, Collin, what he thinks about it when he grows up. Maybe then, you will understand! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 2:48 PM |
| CodyJody, You are assuming that all people who post here are doing everything by the book. I think you would want to protect children from illegal adoptions and predators. My advise is very simple and logical. You are speaking out of emotion. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:12 PM |
| I think searching for a child to adopt in an unmonitored forum is a way for adopters to exploit the ignorance of pregnant women who don't know how to access the social support and resources that are available to them. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:13 PM |
| Quote: CodyJody, You are assuming that all people who post here are doing everything by the book. I think you would want to protect children from illegal adoptions and predators. My advise is very simple and logical. You are speaking out of emotion. ****** You are DARN right, I'm speaking out of emotion! My husband and I have been trying to protect children...That is the reason we decided to adopt!...That is the reason why many adoptive couples come on here to let others know our intentions. By posting what you have, you are assuming we are all horrible child predators. THAT IS NOT THE CASE! If you want to protect children from child predators, you should go somewhere else! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:19 PM |
| I think searching for a child to adopt in an unmonitored forum is a way for adopters to exploit the ignorance of pregnant women who don't know how to access the social support and resources that are available to them. Is that what you are trying to do. Why else would you get so angry. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:26 PM |
| Logic tells me that some couples who fail to pass a background check by an adoption agency, might turn to unmonitored chat rooms to find birthmothers. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:32 PM |
| Well then, your logic should also tell you, they wont get very far without a certified home study! A hospital WILL NOT release a baby to adoptive parents without proof of it all! Most hospitals wont do direct placements, that is what the LAWYER is for! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:33 PM |
| Not everyone gives birth in a hospital. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:37 PM |
| And what about stories like this: ************************* Friday, 14 July, 2000, 13:28 GMT 14:28 UK Woman charged over 'net adoption' A Californian woman has been charged with giving away her 10-year-old son to a couple she met on the internet. Police say Helen Chase, 29, handed the boy over to his new parents and then moved to another town to start a new life. We were trying to see if he fitted well into the family. "She told us basically, she was having trouble with her ten-year-old, problems at school, really typical 10-year-old stuff," Vacaville Police Detective Patrick Cowan said. "She just decided she couldn't deal with this kid and wanted to adopt him out, which is kind of unusual in the first place." Ms Chase says she wanted someone to adopt her son, John, because she could not cope with his bad behaviour. After searching internet chat-rooms, she came across a man she knew only as 'Gus' who agreed to travel to California to collect the child. Police say Miss Chase handed the boy over to a total stranger on their first meeting. She then moved to another town, telling school authorities she was taking her son with her. She just decided she couldn't deal with this kid Police Detective, Patrick Cowan The boy has been living with 'Gus' - real name Gustaf Sjoberg - and his wife since April. Police found the boy apparently unharmed a few days ago, when Miss Chase's step-son told them John had been given away. The 10-year-old has now been placed in foster care but will be sent back to Vacaville in California. Problems at school Helen Chase has been charged with child endangerment, abandonment and failure to provide for a child. She is due to stand trial later this year. In an interview for a local newspaper, she said she had not actually started the adoption process. "We were trying to see if he fitted well into the family. We wanted him to go down, spend a little time and make sure it's a good place for him to be." No money was going to be charged for the illegal adoption, but the family from Florida were to be given travel expenses. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:44 PM |
| If you really cared about adoptive children my advice would not bother you. My guess is that you are afraid birthmothers might actually take this advice and not respond to unmonitored requests on this forum. ****************** Chat Rooms are NOT places for adoptive parents to solicit birthparents. It is not appropriate for hopeful parents to post “I can help” messages, or internet addresses for birthmothers to visit, or to send this type of e-mail to birthmothers. Conversely, it is not appropriate for birthparents to use the Chat Room to solicit adoptive parents. There is no way of knowing which parents on the message board are qualified to adopt. I recommend that you search for licensed adoption agencies in your state. Any of these agencies can assist you with options planning. ↑ |
| Name: Carolyn | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:45 PM |
| Logic tells me that some couples who fail to pass a background check by an adoption agency, might turn to unmonitored chat rooms to find birthmothers. = ============ Luckey- I DO have a passed background check by an adoption agency.....why do you keep rehashing this ? I am not paying them $30K for something I can do by myself, have already done successfully, and will do again; find a birthmom to adopt their child, get them help with my adoption professional, and build my family. Its simple; a birthmom finds a couple; then the couple lets them speak to their agency or attorney and verify that the couple has passed all necessary checks. So have you ever adopted ? If so, I guess you are mad you paid a fortune to someone for something you could have done yourself; matching with a birthmom. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:47 PM |
| If you "look" it was the mother that was in the wrong, NOT THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS! Quote: Name: luckey_in_life • Date: 10/31/2006 10:12:08 I think searching for a child to adopt in an unmonitored forum is a way for adopters to exploit the ignorance of pregnant women who don't know how to access the social support and resources that are available to them. Mrs Chase was NOT an exploited ignorant pregnant women! Her son is 10 years old! She knew darn well what she was doing! Her son is in a better home now, I'm happy this has happend! ↑ |
| Name: nyjocool | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:50 PM |
| Luckey-what is your interest in adoption? Are you a bitter birthmom, do you own an adoption agency? Why do you have to contribute to the group besides warning all of us against "predators". Most scamming is done by women pretending they are pregnant and preying on hopeful couples. I don't hear of adoptive parents scamming birthmoms. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:54 PM |
| Quote: If you really cared about adoptive children my advice would not bother you. My guess is that you are afraid birthmothers might actually take this advice and not respond to unmonitored requests on this forum. ****************** Its not the advise you give, its your ignorance that I'm affraid of! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 8:06 PM |
| ************ ↑ |
