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I have been talking to a man named Simon who placed an ad for a 10mo old baby girl Zoey for adoption whose mother died during childbirth. He says they lived in CO but are currently in Nigeria. He hasnt asked for me to send money, but told me to come there and pick her up and give $2400. Does this sound legit? the email is something like [email protected] ↓
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| Name: Miranda | Date: May 21st, 2007 8:36 PM |
| Never, send any money to a person without meeting them. Also if you do some research you will see a lot of scams use that they are in Nigeria for some reason. Take my advice we have adopted twice so do not sent money and always talk to you agency or Att. ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: May 21st, 2007 8:39 PM |
| Name: MissyLou88 | Date: May 21st, 2007 8:45 PM |
| thanks for your input. He didnt ask for money he asked for me to go fly there and hell give me the baby and sign papers etc. ↑ |
| Name: Miranda | Date: May 21st, 2007 8:54 PM |
| Its up to you but take my advice this is just an emotional scam, we have all had them. This is most likely a child or ill person playing with you. Through both my adoptions I have run into about 10 or so I can think off the top of my head and my adoptions went fast, so just watch out. Are you new to the Adoption World? Also if it was only a plane ticket and $2400 we all would be doing it if it was a real thing. ↑ |
| Name: zachary | Date: May 21st, 2007 9:54 PM |
I have been taliking to the same person. He has sent pictures, but has not asked for any thing as of yet. I asked him for his name number and address, but no responce yet. Email me an we can compare notes.
zach
[email protected] ↑ |
| Name: tattudemom | Date: May 21st, 2007 10:05 PM |
| Mommyboo started a thread some time back with the title "I think this is a scam how bout you" on 5/11/2007. Check page 2 in the posts to read about this guy. It is a scam. ↑ |
| Name: dmt | Date: May 21st, 2007 11:33 PM |
| When is the last time you talked to him? I have been talking to him to. ↑ |
| Name: zachary | Date: May 21st, 2007 11:47 PM |
| I got an email from him today ↑ |
| Name: sweetmary | Date: May 22nd, 2007 12:00 AM |
| So you all think its as easy as paying $2400 and flying to another country to just pick up a baby do you? Thats baby buying and is illegal and not to mention immoral. Just how stupid are you all? Go through the correct channels and do it properly. Then again if you're all so stupid, go ahead and fly over there and give them your money, it'll serve you all right. ↑ |
| Name: wonteverbackdown | Date: May 22nd, 2007 12:32 AM |
| this IS a scam RUN FAST!!! ↑ |
| Name: wonteverbackdown | Date: May 22nd, 2007 12:33 AM |
| zach you have no intentions of becoming homestudy approved you should really not be here you cant adopt without one. ↑ |
| Name: zachary | Date: May 22nd, 2007 1:08 AM |
| Don't be so sure of that. You should only speak what you know not what you THINK you know. Have a nice day. ↑ |
| Name: Lynmaria | Date: May 22nd, 2007 2:28 AM |
| Scam or not....and he is, one cannot just adopt a child internationally without going through U.S. federal laws and the laws of the sending country (EVER). Otherwise, it is black market baby selling and buying and a very serious crime. This is why International homestudies are completed before a child can be brought home from another country...tons of paperwork...but the only way it can be a legal adoption. Word to the wise, work with a reputable agency. ↑ |
| Name: Miranda | Date: May 22nd, 2007 3:36 AM |
Everyone that is getting mad or trying to put each other down needs to remember that this all started over a emotional scammer. This is what they want us or you to go do is get to your last nerve and just make you mad and start fighting with everyone and bring the bad things out.
People are talking about HS (Home Studies) that may envoled a child that most likey does not even exist if we really even think about it!! I hate to be like this but i think it's the truth and you all know it but they are getting the best of us. ↑ |
| Name: mommyboo | Date: May 22nd, 2007 4:15 AM |
| I emailed him also and he responded to me by saying he is talking to too many people right now about his daughter and to bare with him.BUT what I wrote is that we dont feel we should spend alot of money on adopting the child cause it can be used in other better ways.So i figure he just wants money and thats why he wont talk to us. ↑ |
| Name: sweetmary | Date: May 22nd, 2007 4:17 AM |
| No Miranda, they don't give a rats ass if we get mad and start fighting and they're not emotional scammers, they're purely after money and use the fact that there are stupid people who think they can bypass the controls and systems in place to protect (both them and us). They are appealing to greed...a baby for only $2400 geez! Get your blinkers off! ↑ |
| Name: newbie | Date: May 22nd, 2007 4:37 AM |
| It is a total scam. Simon and Johnson are probably one in the same. He wont ask you for money right away. He will lull you into a false sense of security and then he will ask for a little money for her supplies, it was a tough month or Oh I'm now out of work could you float me some cash to keep her fed. etc...etc... Then he will get you out there and rob you of what you have left your money and your dignity. It is the same scam as the one people send regarding the unclaimed inheritance. Unfortunately, this one hurts more because it involves your hopes and your dreams. Don't give this guy a second thought. ↑ |
| Name: erica1 | Date: May 22nd, 2007 4:57 AM |
| Name: tattudemom | Date: May 22nd, 2007 1:23 PM |
As I mentioned in the other thread, I got the same exactly worded email from the following: Rev. John Uzop, Simon Johnson, and Daniel Obi. How can they all have the same damn baby??
Also, you say "they lived in CO but are currently in Nigeria." Come on now!! Tell them you'll adopt once they come back to CO after following proper US laws and see what they say. Celebrities might be able to bypass the laws of adoption (especially in Africa), but the rest of us live in the real world. ↑ |
| Name: JaMiEs | Date: May 22nd, 2007 2:19 PM |
| Yes this is a scam. Get real you couldn't get the baby back into the USA. What are you planning on doing? Get to customs and declare a 10 month+ baby? No one could believe this is a real adoption plan. ↑ |
| Name: dmt | Date: May 22nd, 2007 2:37 PM |
| Hey Tattudemom. Did you see pictures of the baby that the Rev and the other guy were claiming to have for adoption. Were they the same baby as the pictures this guy is emailing? ↑ |
| Name: codyjody | Date: May 22nd, 2007 3:38 PM |
I have been in the adoption world, as an adoptive mom for over 3 years. I can tell you guys that this is a scam! This is a scam for money... The kicker is..... it gets you in the heart as well! These people have been sending the same letter around for years... Just a diff. name at the end. It would be almost impossible for a regular U.S. family, to adopt from Nigeria in the first place.
I know how hard it is to be waiting to adopt... I know how hard it is to hold a baby in your arms and be the Mommy and Daddy, just to hand the child back to his bio-mom, I know how hard it is to be chosen and matched as the mom goes into labor and changes her mind... The hardest and most heart breaking is, I know what it is like to be SCAMMED! Being scammed took so much away from us, we will never be the same! Please, Please use your minds.... and let your hearts follow after! I know the waiting hurts, I have been there... But now I'm in the greatest place... I'm a mom by adoption... to the most wonderfull 8.5 month old, baby boy, in the world! We were pregnant with him for over 2 years and the labor pains were heart breaking... BUT SO WELL WORTH EVERY TEAR!
PLEASE, be carefull!
Jody ↑ |
| Name: Mom2BEE | Date: May 22nd, 2007 8:42 PM |
Nigeria is just as bad as Cameroon anyone that contacts you from Nigeria or Cameroon or anywhere in Africa is a SCAM. Sad but Oh so true do Not send money do not let them have your personal information that includes NO home address no phone number etc.
Sorry ↑ |
| Name: dmt | Date: May 23rd, 2007 12:47 PM |
Yes, this is so a scam. This guy was emailing me non stop on Monday wanting me to adopt his baby. Of course knowing that I want to adopt a baby girl I was very interested. He didn't ask me for a money. I told him I would talk to my lawyer so everything was ligit. I was prepared to fly him and the baby to the states with a non refundable ticket. I saw all the people on babycrowd questioning his honesty. So I asked him to let me know his full name and his wife and baby and where the baby was born. So I could check out his story. As soon as I sent him this email he quit emailing me. Untill this morning where he said that he was going to talk to someone else now. So yes I think he is a scam he didn't want me to check out his story. I think maybe he was hoping I would send him money for a flight but, I am not sure. I know there are people out there that prey on people but, it blows my mind that people prey on people that are just wanting to complete their family. It is sad and very cruel. He told me he is talking someone else now so be very careful. I also asked him if I could have a picture of him and the baby and he sent me a picture that only showed the back of his head.
Love,
Michelle ↑ |
| Name: Johnson | Date: May 23rd, 2007 1:32 PM |
All the people that has siad nice things about me,Thanks and so that has said bad thing about me too Gob bless you all, its so sad that i lost my wife and had to but my daughter through this mess. i am sorry for ever posting my ad on this site.
all does that have contacted me for the baby should forget about it, i would keep zoey suffer together with her and try as much as i can to give her the best of all.
Thanks to michelle,zack,and every other person that has been reasonable.God will Jugde us all in heaven, we all would die someday and i wonder how u owuld feel when u have to give up your child in the manner or act.
bye again ↑ |
| Name: Johnson | Date: May 23rd, 2007 1:41 PM |
tattudemom,
I posted my ad here and they contacted me okay, if u dont know things done speak of it.ask michelle and other people if i contacted them or they did. ↑ |
| Name: Johnson | Date: May 23rd, 2007 1:45 PM |
Please write all this people and dicuss what i have said if it different, i was to select from all those people i talked to see which is best for zoey, Daniel Obi has nothing to do with my life or family.
[email protected]
Sh0rtPri
[email protected]
Zach
[email protected]
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| Name: wonteverbackdown | Date: May 23rd, 2007 1:54 PM |
| [email protected]! that is JANET STINKIN I JUST HAD A TUBAL REVERSAL AND AM NOT TRYING TO ADOPT POSEY......... my Lord woman do you ever go away. Is it time for me to post your emails now? ↑ |
| Name: tattudemom | Date: May 23rd, 2007 4:27 PM |
You claim to not be associated with Daniel Obi, so why did you email me one of the letters I showed on here? I still have it, too, so don't try to deny it.
Furthermore, from the U.S. Department of State, "Non-Nigerians may not adopt children in Nigeria. True adoptions in Nigeria are very rare. Adoption in Nigeria must be initiated from the Ministry of Social Services, not directly with the court by the adoptive parents. Any adoption not done under the auspices of the Ministry of Social Services is not valid."
It is illegal for anyone to receive monies in Nigeria just as it is in the U.S. It's considered BABY SELLING any way you look at it. If you're legitimate, go to your Ministry of Social Services and leave the Americans alone. We aren't allowed to adopt from you anyway unless we establish residency there, which I doubt these folks are interested in doing. If you're from Colorado, as you told MissyLou, then put your daughter up for adoption after you come back here. ↑ |
| Name: sweetmary | Date: May 23rd, 2007 11:42 PM |
| Johnson momoftwoangels23 is the best person to adopt your sweet little girl. Only email her. She has lots and lots of money and is so desperate to adopt would send you as much money as you wanted. Ignore the rest of these women and just talk to momoftwoangels. Really she is loaded! She lives in a 5 bedroom mansion and drives a luxury 4wd and spends thousands every month. If you ask her nicely she will be sure to send you some money. ↑ |
| Name: sweetmary | Date: May 23rd, 2007 11:43 PM |
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