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Name: Coartney
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Well i was not trying to sound rude. i am now starting a new post b.c obviously you have a problem with me. and instead of posting it prior you wait until now. I am a very compassionate person. Alot of women on here are TTC and alot of them I am friends with, I am friendly with. I have nothing against anyone TTC. I dono what i said or did to offend you but perhaps you should have spoken up about it b.c i more than likely would have apologized.
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Name: oh_so_excites | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 9:57 PM
plus whats the point in starting a new post to ask what speed birthing is? its not like her asking the question on there or making new post is going to make lorna or her baby boy recover any faster...it was an honest question..and this whole chat room is about questions and answers and concerns...everyone is concerned for lorna and her baby...but questions dont hurt...why start a new post when someone already on there might know what speed birthing is? 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 9:59 PM
I have spoken up at least twice before. I guess I was just really offended because when I spoke up before you either made a rude comment, or completely ignored me. I'm sure that you were concerned about Lorna and the baby, but I read through the other post and it sounded like you were telling her that her cramps were nothing, but if she really felt the need, to call her doctor. I don't want to offend you. I just felt the need to let you know how it sounds to some other people. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:00 PM
Sorry ose. I guess I just thought....well, I guess it doesn't matter. We all have our opinions, right? 

Name: oh_so_excites | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:01 PM
well the advice "cramps are nothing, if you are concerned call your doctor" is good advice. because when you are so far along in your pregnancy you get Braxton HIcks and can come and go..and if she was worried tocall the doctor...which she did...

sorry for butting in coart 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:02 PM
Coartney, I just said that is how you seemed to feel to me. Not everyone ttc. I can only speak for myself 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:02 PM
thats great, this is the internet, i understand not everything can be completely understood, when it comes to emotions b.c it is infact just words on a screen. what do yo uwant me to say im sorry that i had my opinion about something that u said? or that i had no opinion and said nothing? i wasnt telling her cramps are nothing. i stated we are not doctors, i dont know whats wrong with her, i get sick very often and some times i call my doctor and some times i dont. i said if she is truly concerned then to call. and she did, and then happened and im sorry but she made it there b.c she did call her doctor b.c she was concerned 


Name: oh_so_excites | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:03 PM
yeah we all have our own opinions, but to jump on someone for asking a question is kind of silly. whateverelse you said is none of my business. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:04 PM
i have no problem in any one saying anything in here. there are alot of women on here that for a fact do not like me, or have butted heads with me. and this is me saying I dont care. I dont purposely try to crush people or hurt their feelings, make them feel unappreciated, but this is the internet. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:04 PM
You're right. I apologize. It can be difficult to decifer between sarcasm and being rude when you're reading it. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:05 PM
ose- I don't think I jumped on her for asking a question. I simply thought that it sounded rude at the time, as did Lorna's mom 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:06 PM
its fine. i am not upset, but apparently you are, or were. i dono. i dont recall ever butting heads with you b.c i honestly tend to remember those people. 

Name: Randi | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:07 PM
like me. we hate each other. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:07 PM
I understand. I try not to but heads with anyone. I often just walk away so I don't say anything I shouldn't. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything this time, but I just felt strongly about how I was interpreting (sp) your comments at that time. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:08 PM
lol! 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:08 PM
lol randi. yes i hate you with a passion -kisses- haha

well perhaps autumns girl, you could have just stated i sounded rude and perhaps i should correct myself or something instead of stooping as low as you say I am. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:10 PM
Sorry. You just don't know how people will react. Like you said, we've never spoken on here before, and all I knew was what i had read... 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:11 PM
whoa u just said we never spoke on here before but yet you stated in the other post and on here saying that i was rude to YOU and/or ignored you. please do make up my mind b.c now i am getting pissy with accusations 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:14 PM
Have we ever actually had a conversation??? I guess that's what I consider speaking. I'm sure you have given your advice at one time or another, but we've never spoken. See what I mean. You tend to jump to conculsions just as much as anyone else. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:18 PM
yeh its fine jill i saw. and uhm well if you say one thing, and then say another, yes im gonna get confused and say uhm what the hell are you talking about? and yes ifa advice is asked, then yes i will give mine if i feel i should. apparently my advice or opinion somewhere tainted you and you now blame me for the reason you no longer come on this site. and the thing that bothers me the most is you think its b.c you're ttc and i think you're worthless. sorry its not like if you dont have a due date you're non existant to me. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:23 PM
I understand. I guess I should appologize cause you aren't the only one... just pushed my buttons more than anyone else I guess. Sometimes some us who are ttc feel as though we don't belong here cause we don't have anything to talk about but our ups and downs, and sometimes a few people can make it seems as though if we aren't pregnant yet we really don't have much to talk about. 

Name: jillw | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:29 PM
I think that alot of people who are ttc feel that way. I also don't think that they should take it out on us. We ask them how things are going and give advise when we can, but we are not in their situation. There are some people who had to try for a long time and then some who it happened to by accident. Sometimes ladies who are ttc get pissed becuase they ask advise and we give the best we have and then they are pissed because it is not what they wanted. I am sorry that you felt unwelcome, but I know taht coartney and most of the other girls on here aren't sitting around trying to be mean to women who are not pregnant 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:33 PM
Sorry, not trying to make you go crazy. I probably should have said something more before hand. I guess I just didn't feel like it would matter. I've seen the posts from mom to be, and although they can be frustrating cause she's always talking about ttc, her hubby, if she's pregnant or not, I see the annoyance in the replies to her. I don't say anything cause sometimes I feel exactly the same way she does, but I don't want to get the replies she does. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:44 PM
Okay I get it! You don't have to dwell on the fact that I said you sounded rude! I appologized and tried to show you my point of view. I didn't say you are ALWAYS rude! Ugh! What do I have to do? 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 8th, 2007 10:56 PM
well u also said i was selfish, so i was actually showing that i was 

Name: Angelcecilia2 | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 12:42 AM
Coart,
I have to agree with you that a lot of the TTC women feel like we're being rude, and seem to take their frustrations out on us. I also agree that many of our responses to mom to be can sound like we're annoyed, but I have to say I do find myself getting annoyed with her because she asks questions, we answer them to the best of our ability, or with our experience, and she gets mad at us because our answer wasn't what she wanted to hear. That does annoy me. And while some of the pg women did have unplanned pregnancies, there are also a lot of us who were part of the TTC crowd for quite a while before we got pg. It really bothers me when my advice is considered invalid to a ttc woman just because I'm already pg -- it wasn't all that long ago that I was in the same boat, and I wish only the best to TTC ladies because I know how frustrating it can be.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is I see both sides....but it upsets me when people target one person and take personal frustration out on her. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 12:43 AM
nicely put. 

Name: daisyusa | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 1:23 AM
This is all nuts. I joined this forum back in July, had found out I was pregnant in June, then lost my baby in Aug at nearly 12 weeks. I have always felt welcome here even now that I'm back in the ttc crowd. I find it strange that this site doesn't have one to cater to the ttc yet they have every other family topic. I've had 2 children and feel helpful at times. I feel for Mom 2 be because she is so passionate about getting pregnant, but agree that it can get frustrating when we offer advice and then get mad at some of us, but that's who she is and we have to be accepting to that. Just like with Coart, gotta love her, but just because I don't like swearing and she does doesn't mean I should judge her for it. That's who she is and who are we to change her. We need to remind ourselved that we should keep an open mind on this forum. Like when Coart gave advice to Lorna, she wasn't dismissing her cramps she was trying to show her that it may be nothing and to try her advice to see if it would help. Things get taken too literaly and read with hostility. Try reading a post that way, and then try in a soft understanding voice and you will see the difference.

You just have to accept the way we are on here or don't come on, it's that simple. Keep an open mind.

Sorry so long, God bless. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 1:29 AM
daisy im glad to hear from you on this. it really hurts when women say we dont care about them or we think they dont belong b.c they are ttc, i have never once said anything of the sort. i feel so much for you ladies b.c of all the crap you go through and for someone to actually think i dont like them b.c they cant get pregnant or hold a pregnancy, that really does hurt my feelings. i know i swear, and i know i can come off as mean but i am not that cold hearted. hell honestly i dont even remember who most of the TTC girls are b.c you blend in so much with everyone i dono but thank you for posting. 

Name: devsmom | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 2:12 AM
i guess we are all strangers and may take things the "wrong" way.
there seems to be ALOT of fighting on here. 

Name: firsttimer | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 2:13 AM
hi devsmom..just wanted to post to you, and say i like ya! :) 

Name: devsmom | Date: Feb 9th, 2007 2:14 AM
ahh thats ~nice~ 

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