Well here I am again about the silly modification! It still has not went into effect!! We filed back in Sept. 06! The court order is still sitting on CSE caseworker's desk...in which she was so kind as to inform my hubby that it is HER JOB to send it to his employer!!! It's been sitting on her desk for months!!! What does that mean her job...do your fn job lady!!!!
In the mean time...hubby is over paying on his support! 5 mos. of over payment to be exact!!! You would think they would be getting this handled...no! He has to be made an example of for all the truly deadbeat POS's out there...b/c he works!!! Yesterday they intercepted our "state income tax return"!!!!!!!!! I ask what wtf is wrong with this picture?????!!!!!! How in the hell can they intercept a return for over payment???!!! We call & call, leave messages, etc. every stinkin day!! I'm really going to come seriously unglued w/ CSE!!! We're at our wits end w/this crap!! Who do you call???!!!
This is really sickening!! We're not doing wrong here! We paid for children that had been legally emancipated for years. Amoung other things...insurance, etc.!! Now we are just trying to make it right for ourselves...and CSE will not let it happen! There is something seriously wrong with our system these days!!! It needs to be looked into by our stinkin government!! I am so sick of hearing how it is in the children's best interest when all my hubbys supoort has been used to care for a deadbeat x and her deadbeat hubby for 15 yrs!!! While they sit on their a$$es, jobless, take vacations, drive new cars, get DUI's, and complain that they are not getting more!!!! That witch couldn't even take the children to the dentist when someone else (us) was providing the insurance! Oh now...the youngest needs braces? Yeah, the boy has been to dentist 2x that we know of in 15 yrs!! Lord forbide we try to take him!! She won't let him be around us unless it Christmas!! It's all a big fn scam!!!
The system allows this...all in the name of the children!!! ok...I feel a lil better now getting it out here! As I ramble on! Sorry!!! No tax return again this year for us...as she takes a vacation!!!! ↓
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| Name: Sunshine1 | Date: Feb 21st, 2007 3:35 PM |
Morning Lory. Nice vent! Child support does suck. We paid for a year longer than we had to. You would think they would want to clear the file! Forget getting the $$ back unles you want to sue the mom in small claims.
My dh and I split for 6 mos. way back and I never got a penny. We got back together and I sent a letter requesting the case be closed. A year later they took him out of work in cuffs on x-mas eve for owing ME back support!! I ran down to fix it...and I swear...there sat my letter on the desk with about 20 others. The money he was paying to me during the split went into someone elses acct.!! AND we never got that back either! ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Feb 21st, 2007 4:59 PM |
Yep, tried going to small claims too! That stupid a$$ rinky dink judge asked us what we were doing in his court...we should be in family court!! Well yeah...been there too!! Oh, and had the nerve to tell us yet again...think of the children!! Which he apparently didn't read the case file b/c they are grown, and on their own!! While she sat there playing innocent good mother!! Nope Sunshine1...I dont' expect we'll see any of it back!! That sucks about hubby on x-mas...no..it gives them jobs, if they would only do them!!!
Wow Lizzi...that's a sad situation there! OMG...it does go to show ya how disgusting our system is!! Thanks for the support ladies this a.m. it really means alot to me to be able to come here and vent and get great support!! TY!! Lizzi they didn't get our federal...thank goodness! It still the principal of the whole deal though!! I don't think we can get through to anyone calling there! if your not telling them to collect...you get the dreaded voice mail...and have to wait for them to get back to you!! I really wish we could slap a lawsuit on those good for nothings!! But...not enough $$ to even begin. I will continue to research our options today and everyday. Someone, somewhere has to cut us a break sometime! Thanks again!! ↑ |
| Name: Lizzi | Date: Feb 21st, 2007 7:17 PM |
| Lory you should go there and sit down with the person (in charge) of your case and refuse to leave until they actively get their asses in gear and get to the bottom of it! ↑ |
| Name: tb4 | Date: Feb 26th, 2007 1:49 AM |
| Hi Lory----Geez, what a crock of crap!!! You know, if I were you, I would call the number every single day, several times a day. If you get voice mail, leave a message. Keep calling and calling until finally they get sick and tired of the calls from you. Granted, this may take a couple of weeks but after a while, they'll get sick of it and hopefully take care of things. Just keep calling. Also, if you have an email address, send them several emails everyday, too. I know you feel it's a waste of time to be put on hold waiting for someone but if they want to take the time in taking this money away from you all, then they can take the time to answer all your messages. Don't quite until you finally get some results. I'm having the same troubles myself so starting Monday, they will be hearing from me every single day, several times a day if this is what it takes. The trouble with these services is....they expect people to just give up and let it go. They won't expect you to be so persistant. The sick thing is.....the persistant ones always get the results. Hang in there good friend!! Also, I know this is a cost to you all but try taking it back to court again. You have the right to excercise the law to your ability. Even if the judge tells you to think of the kids, explain that you are, they are grown on their own but you just don't feel it's fair to have to continue supporting the ex wife. Keep in mind, the state has to pay their employees to answer these calls, therefore the more calls and emails you make, the more they have to spend money to take care of this. So, bottom line is, who's it costing more.....you or them? Especially if it's an 800 number you call into. Become the telemarketer at your own crusade. I'm sorry this is happening. Never fails, nothing ever goes like it should. I know what you mean, we have a judical system for your service but who does it really service.....never the good guys. ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Feb 26th, 2007 2:26 PM |
Hey tb4!!! Miss ya!!!
Thank you so much for the encouraging words!! It really does seem there is no "winning" for the good guy!! It seems as though these people (the x) have some sort of pact wtih the devil to keep coming out on top!! It's crazy b/c all we want is it to be made "right"! And...for some odd reason CSE cannot bring themselves to do it! The way CSE works their books?....they go on a weekly basis. My hubby gets paid bi-weekly. So every 3 mos. or 4 mos. it some how puts him in arrears??! And...then they put out an ordert to his employer to take it at that time, on top of the support he already sends! Yet the original support has been taken out of his check. It's on his stubs!!! He's garnished for crying out loud! And...has been for 15yrs.!! He has tried to explain this to CSE over and over again! You can imagine what a bind that puts us in to have "more" unexpectedly taken from our home!!! And...lord help us if we are due a tax return. That is why we didn't get one for the last 3 yrs. and actually owed! We changed our deductions to not have a return b/c we knew they would take it and give to the x!!! Well...this year we figured we had overpayed and they would not be able to take it. No for some reason not true....that goes to show you they will take the state return no matter what!!! It also goes to show they could give a rip whether the children actually benefit from this $$ at all! b/c they have not lived in the home for 6 yrs.!!! We have come to believe they do this on purpose b/c they think they're making some deadbeat Dad pay!!! When all they have done was keep a bitter x and her hubby in a lifestyle while Dad & his children suffer at their hands!!! Again...I ramble on..it is so frustrating!! I will, starting today...call everyday until the end of time!!! And...even if they do fix it...I will continue to call to let them know, we have another child coming up for emancipation soon!!!!
I wish you the best of luck on your modification also!! And...from the bottom of my heart I hope things go both of our way soon!!! xoxo Lory ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Feb 26th, 2007 3:15 PM |
| I am feeling the need to also say....I know some would think that it would have been harder on us to have had the children here and raised them. No way....as much support as we have paid... our children would have lived a wonderful, caring, loving, life w/us!! We would have provided everything their little hearts desired, and then some!! As it stands....I say again! The $ all these years allowed the x and spouse to live a lifestyle that none of us lived...including the children!!! Whom were put out of the home @ 15! And...refused to live w/us b/c of the many years of brainwashing and doing without, thinking it was us causing it!! We would have loved to have been able to raise them in our home!! ↑ |
| Name: tb4 | Date: Feb 27th, 2007 3:05 AM |
| Hi Lory---This CSE is a load of crap! What the heck? I'm absolutely sure the children would of had a much better life living with you all but the greedy witch got an inch and took a mile. Wow! What a mess! No wonder you get upset about all of this. Hell, I would, too! Fair is fair and this is totally unfair. Well, I hope your phone calls will get you somewhere. I started my phone calling today, too. Of course, I get the voice mail but I called back and left another message before the end of the day. When I wake up in the morning, my fingers will be doing some walking. Eventually, someone is going to get sick of hearing my voice in their message box. I'm ticked off by all of this, too. In fact, I was suppose to be getting a support check but haven't received it yet. It usually gets here on Saturdays. As you know, I really need this check on a regular basis but it's always when I absolutely need it......I don't get it. I know he's not working b/c his vehicle was parked in the driveway today. I don't get how this man does it. He collects unemployment which isn't very much and has expenses up the wazoo. So, where in holy heck is he getting income? It certainly boggles the imagination. Well, what comes around goes around, right? I hear ya, girlfiend! This stinks! ↑ |
| Name: billy22 | Date: Feb 27th, 2007 4:54 AM |
| Hi Girlie:) Long time, huh? Any how, was just checking in here tonight and saw this on here. Just thought I'd let you know that with my recent modification, a similar thing happend. I had to call the worker every week to get her to stay on top of it and it STILL took 3 months! BUT....we finally got the finalized, signed papers on Friday:) I think the thing you're gonna have to do is just call every week, unfortunately we don't get paid to do their job:( But, it's the only thing that keeps them in gear I'm afraid. I am sure they have a LOAD of papers just like ours on their desks, but not too many of them will keep calling and hounding like we know we can, right?:) TTYL! i will email you about my resent tests later this week too...I had my CT scan today..... ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Feb 27th, 2007 2:29 PM |
HI tb4 & billy22!
First, thank-you for your support & info.! In fact to all the ladies in this post ty!
I called yesterday morning and of course got voice mail. I left a message and tried to be half way decent! I asked her to please send the order to my hubbys employer so we can get this done. I told her we didn't understand how or why this was happening....when there is an order! I explained how much grief this causes our family, and taxes were taken that did not belong to them or anyone else but us!! (billy22 our order has been signed by all parties including CSE attorney) That is why we aren't understanding?! Well...she calls hubby @ work...tells him how rude I was...lol! And tells him she cannot discuss this case with me! And she did not appreciate me saying she has been sitting on this case for a month! HUH! I called back said...I didn't ask to her to call me to discuss this... I only asked that the order be sent to hubbys employer. Said...this is exactly what I'm talking about! Instead of taking time to call hubby...put a stamp on it and send it! Or fax it for crying out loud!! I continued to tell her...ever since their office got involved our life has been a living nightmare! Told her...he's garnished, has been...would you like me to get every check stub for the last 13 yrs.? b/c that's how long this has been going on for me! And...I do have them! Yet your office has continued to take more than required in the name of children who are not involved any longer! And...why can't you discuss this with me...it affects me & our child when you take more $ from our home!! Hubby calls later from work...and asks to speak to her supervisor! He has to clock out for all this nonsense! This person explains to him that there is a mistake with their ledger & the court order....that this case will be put on hold! No $ will leave that office until this is figured out. Yeah right..not send support?! Trying to cover their a$$es is all we can see here!! If there is a problem with the court order...why did their attorney, our attorney, basically all parties involved sign it?????!!!!! Oh, and this person claims that it is the Denver office who intercepts taxes! Not them! So....today I will call the Denver office! And...the office here! To top it all off...our attorney sent us a letter withdrawing from our case! It stated it is finished and there is no more he can do! It stated the modification is complete! In all reality it is...was! So...that just tells us he needs another retainer to begin again!!! Nice...$2300.00 & 6 mos. later this is where we are!
There is also a news channel here..."call for action" that I will be looking into also!
tb4...I'm sorry you are having issues with "them" also! It does seem like when you need it the most...they take it, or do not send it! Ridiculous!
billy22...good to hear yours is done! I hope your scan is ok. I'll be lookin for your mail! Sorry this is so long...and I had to say what went on word for word...LOL! It helps to get it out here...and keeps me sane!! TY ladies!! ↑ |
| Name: pattyl | Date: Mar 12th, 2007 12:35 AM |
| I would just send an email to your governors office. I would make a very clear, concise statment about your case and how long this has been going on. Attach a copy of the court order, which should be dated. I hear they have someone at every governors office to handle matters such as this. One girl I know had waited on her them to get her CS straighened out for one year, but after the governors office go involved she got all the back pay for 1 year. ↑ |
| Name: pattyl | Date: Mar 12th, 2007 12:44 AM |
| Do you have a copy of that modification and stamped by the court? If so I would hand deliver it to the employer. If you don't have one go to the courthouse and get a certified copy and then hand deliver it. ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Mar 12th, 2007 4:11 AM |
Hey there pattyl!
Thanks so much for your input & words of wisdom. We do have a signed, certified copy of the order, good from Nov. 9th, 2006 that we received from our attorney signed by a judge... and all partys involoved. The silly deal is....CSE is responsible..as they have made their position loud and clear, by intercepting our state return, yet again!! In which...hubby cannot possibly be in arrears at this point! They are in our f'd-up case are responsible for sending it to hubbys employer. As long as they are involved...it is up to them. They claim there is an error on their part??!!! In their ledger (books)!!! HMMMM...yeah, it's a huge attempt to keep hubby down, in the name of some f'd up, piece 'o crap parent!!!! I must say they are doing a great job of it too. They suck!! Yes, at this point we are very, very disgruntled!!!! I will take your advice to email the governor. Yes...I will. At this point, I will do anything that will possibly help my old man...and his many years of "responsiblilty" & love for his children. To an ungrateful, unkind, uncaring, useless, use her children as tools POS!!!! We live in the lovely state of Colorado...where children do not really in the "grande scheme of things" matter!!!
So, sorry...you caught me on an eve. of grief...yet again! b/c of all the b.s.!! Thank you so much for taking the time to read & respond to my post. Have a good one! ↑ |
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