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Name: sonia
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Are you all going to the hospital where you will be hooked up to pain meds that wont allow you to get out of bed and for 25% of you c-section because you can't get out of your beds to squat and push your babies out. I'm just wondering what is happening to birth in todays world. Are you all really okay with all of this? not to mention all that will be induced before their babies are ready to come out. Are any of you afraid. you should be if you are birthing in a hospital.
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Name: sue | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 9:42 PM
I agree. Way too many C-sections. It's like birthing is a production line and not a normal process. Heh with docs telling us you can drink alcohol in 3rd trimester, I am not surprised at the brainwashing going on! 

Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 9:44 PM
wow you made me really think of all my possibilties 

Name: Angela2 | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 9:55 PM
Everyone has their own point of veiw on the situation. But mine is different. I do agree with to many c-sections. But in a lot of cases it is what is best for the mother and the baby. Could u imagine being at home and your babies leg comes out first? Then u will be wondering how long it takes to get to the hospital. I would rather be at the hospital in case of any complications. You really never know what can happen and I want to be as close to our modern technology as posible. But hey thats just me. I do watch that show a baby story and they do home births and it really works for some people. So the best of luck to you!! 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:03 PM
hey there jennica
I am so glad you read this. You will be so happy if you birth at home I have seen it over and over again. find someone now it is never too late to switch Dr. I did at six months preg with my third and had a successful vbac with a wonderful nurturing midwife. She was worth way more than any Dr. If I ever have another baby not planning one now because of the marriage problems. I will have the baby at home. But I am a natural kinda girl. I like all that health food, herbs, yoga, acupuncture, and massage therapy ect.

Sue I'm glad you see my point of view most girls don't realize until it is too late and they are cut open in much more pain than any epidural could ever relieve. Plus an epidural doesn't fix the emotional pain at all. 

Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:06 PM
I'm gonna call a midwife today. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:09 PM
Great! you will have the most awsome birth experience. You need to tell me what you think even after your first appt. make sure you get a PLM not a CNM PLM=professional lay midwife certified in home birth CNM= certified nurse midwife delivers in a hospital 


Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:12 PM
Okay thanks i'll make sure she's a PLM. 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 1:46 PM
First of all noone should be afraid to deliver their baby in a hospital. Thats crazy. I would feel ten times better delivering in a hospital just in case an emergency arises I know I will have good medical care. Thats me. just because you are all for home birth, which is fine, dont try to scare other women who want their babies born in a hospital. 

Name: to amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 4:08 PM
You really are wrong about the safty of hospitals. You should really do your research on the topic. Many more complications occur in hospitals. It is silly to say they are safe when one in four women are getting sectioned. Don't you think this is a bit high? Many more women and babies die due to complications from surgury than die from birthing naturally. Save hospitals for those who are sick being preganant and giving birth is not a disease it is a natural process that has survived a lot longer that modern medicine. However I will agree with you on one point if a women must have her baby in a hospital it is best to go into the situation with as little fear as possible because of the fact that fear has an impact on the womens outcome. I have reserched this topic extensively and for anyone wondering what is true do the research yourselves. By reasearch I don't mean the pamplet they give you at your Dr. office find formal studies that have been done and speak for themselves. Then you can come up with your own decision on where to give birth. Very rarly does an emergency occur that requires the delivery of a baby in less that twenty minutes plenty of time for most women to get to the hospital if needed. I never said to do this at home alone you must have a qualified midwife present who can detect any problems early. Amy I'm sorry that our society has convinced you to fear something you are strong enough to do and are designed perfectly for. It is so sad to see so many women relenquishing their power to Dr. that are using women as there scientific project.

Angela2 the legs won't come out first if you have a trained midwife who knows the postion of the baby before delivery 

Name: to amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 4:10 PM
Women who are not interested in a home birth won't come here any way so I am not introducing them to any unneeded fear. I'm not scaring any one who doesn't want to be. 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 6:38 PM
Whatever Sonia, but if your at home and like someone previously posted, your baby's feet are coming out first, what do you do if you cant make the hospital in time? You can have your opinion , but I still see the hospital as the safest way to go. Besides, since when are c-sections dangerous anyways? I understand they are major surgery but if the doctor is performing one then obvioously they have a good reason for doing so. They dont like to do them for the heck of it. There are plenty of women who have epidurals and deliver their babies vaginally, I bet a much higher number than those that need a c-section from one. Can you give me a link to all your facts please, so I can compare for myself the risks of hospital births verses home? 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 6:49 PM
To amy
Read silent knife you can get it at any book store and there are pleanty of other references in this book. I don't do a lot of research on the internet because of how unreliable it can be. Yes Dr. do it for the heck of it and I hope it never happens to you. Often times a c-section is requied because of interventions the Dr. has introduced like epidural and pitocine. You should go to the room that says how to have the most unatural birth possible since this is what seems to interest you so much. 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 6:54 PM
Sonia just because I dont believe in your ridiculous theroy whatsoever doesnt mean I will have an unnatural childbirth. Actually my last two children were born completely natural in the hospital with family and friends around. First of all a doctor cannot perform a c-section with out the mothers consent, so if I feel it is absolutely not needed then I wouldnt sign, but seeing how you have so much more knowledge than any doctor in the world I guess I should listen to you. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 6:59 PM
being in a hospital is unnatural all by its self. Did you wear your own clothes and bring your own bed with you. this conversation is getting so funny. I never claimed to know what Dr' know but I don't think Dr know everything either. You don't have to listen to anything I say I really don't care what you do or anyone else for that matter but I would like to chat with people who feel the same as me or who want to explore different avenues for giving birth 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 7:50 PM
Oh so because I didnt wear my own clothes made my birth unnatural, lol good one. you are ridulous. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 8:08 PM
Amy you base what you think on your experences which it sounds like were very positive ones good for you. I base what I think on my experiences which were not so good. Because of my own experiences I have done a lot of research into this topic it is what interests me. I am now studying to become a midwife myself but that is niether here nor there. All I can say is that you really can't know where I am coming from because you have never experienced a c-section. I can't really know where you are coming from because you had very positive hospital experiences. It' s been a good debat though and I really respect what you think. Thank you for challeging my thinking. 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 10:44 PM
Your right I have never had a c-section, but I know plenty of women who have and they share non of the same feelings as you do, and I just think you are going to scare some first time moms who may need a c-section. Your case is more of the exception than the rule I am sure. And I am sorry you
had such a bad experience. But telling women they should be afraid to deliver in the hospital is just not right. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 10:52 PM
Amy I think if you look around at some sites specifically designed for c-section mothers you will find my feelings are very common. I disagree that a 25% section rate is an exception not a rule this is quickly approaching a rule in this country. 

Name: Amy | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 10:54 PM
You know what good for you I hope you have a happy safe and painless delivery, naturally. I will not argue with you anyomre. But I know I will not be worrried if the need for a c-section arises for me. I will know its whats best for me and the baby. 

Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:03 PM
Just wanted to let you know i called a midwife and i'm meeting with her next tuesday. Wish me luck hun. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:14 PM
Jennica I'm so glad you did this. I am trying to study inbetween looking at these chat rooms. Did you read the disscussion I was having with Amy prior. it is kind of funny. I didn't mean to scare any one but these rooms are for voicing ourselves. What do you think? 

Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:24 PM
yeah i agree with you these board are for us to voice are opinions it doesn't matter how much we disagree. On a different note my back is killing me. 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:28 PM
Is your boy friend there to rub it for you? 

Name: jennica to sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:32 PM
no not yet but soon hopefully 

Name: sonia | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 11:38 PM
You should lie down and put your legs up until he gets there. Make him cook your dinner too you deserve it. 

Name: Chris R | Date: Mar 10th, 2006 5:56 AM
I just jumped onto this thread and can agree with both sides of the argument. I do have a friend that tried for a home birth though and stalled at 8 cm, when they broke her water she had meconium and that's when they took her to the hospital. She said it was a long drive! The people that chose to do home birth are usually low risk and are already less likely to need intervention, which may explain why there are more c-sections done in the hospital. I went overdue and was induced, but had a great experience and even though my baby was big, I was able to avoid a c-section. Each person is different. 

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