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Name: A Mom To Be
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Are any of you good at reading temperature charts for those ttc. I need help. I have been temping but can't interpret it.


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Name: proudmomjen | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 5:32 AM
what are you wondering? I charted with my daughter 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 5:33 AM
I am ttc and I want to know when I ovulate, and if it is normal. ??? 

Name: proudmomjen | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 5:37 AM
Based on you chart it looks like you might have ovulated around the 11th day. And yes your temp will rise after ovulation. What you want is for the temperature to continue to rise and not fall. So far looks good. 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 7:29 AM
Is it possible I haven't ovulated yet and that it will go down and then back up again??? I used an opk on the 10th and it was negative. I also had sex on 6th, 7th, 9th and 12th. 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 7:29 AM
It really frustrates me. I want ttc to be simple. 

Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 7:54 AM
you prob been asked this.. but have you been to the doctors to check your infertility ? they just do a few tests.. make sure you dont have anything stopping you from conceiving etc.. ? 


Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 8:48 AM
It is common practice that couples have to wait 12 months. All tests so far reveal I am ready, blood is good, no stds etc next step is an ultrasound. We haven't been ttc for 12mths yet so we may have to wait until the end of August. 

Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 8:53 AM
ohhhhhh i see. well hopefully you wont need to have an ultra sound in august because you will be pregnant =D ! 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 11:23 AM
You haven't ovulated yet. You need it to rise above your coverline which at the moment is 36.5. It should rise apx 4 tenths and stay up for you to see if you have ovulated.

Let me know if you have any other questions, I'm here if you need help. 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 12:10 PM
Thanks Daisy. Now I know what coverline means YAHOO. Used another opk today and it was negative. I think I ovulate later, ???????? Arrhhh I hope that I dont have to go through this again next month :( 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 12:13 PM
If your cycle is 28 days, you may possibly o around cd15 or so. Take notice of cm, you'll see it thickening and eventually the egg white look.

I hope you won't need it again either. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 12:32 PM
Looks like to me like you ovulated on the 11th day, as temp rises after ovulation ... 

Name: question | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 4:40 PM
Daisy you said to watch cm and it will thicken and have an egg white look.I know this is normal,but before I got pregnant( by accident) I was watching to see when I ovulated and it worked for awhile but then I never even thought i was ovulating because I had no cm at all.so thought I was safe,but not.... lol guess it serves me right...lol 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 6:32 PM
question, the majority of women get the ew but there are a few who don't. Some just don't drink plenty of water. I notice mine isn't at egg whitish if I don't drink enough. You obviously had some, enough to protect the sperm and help them along their journey. I think it's great that you go pregnant by accident, I hope that happens for me and my hubby soon. I'm getting old in the babymaking world.

briseis, if you look at her chart, she hasn't ovulated yet. She's had quite a few temps at 36.5 which makes that her cover line. She needs to go above this by at least 4/10 and it has to stay up in order to confirm that she has ovulated. I'm thinking she has a couple of day to go before she o's. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 8:02 PM
Well to be honest, I'd need to see a few months of charting, at least 6 months before I can have any real idea. You need to learn the pattern in which you ovulate. I said it looks like she may have ovulated on day 11, as her temp immediately rose after this, but there can be other reasons why a temperature would rise other than ovulation, and I've not been provided with this information. The BBT charting method is so inaccurate for that reason. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 8:04 PM
I tried charting, and even though I temped at the same time every morning, my temps never really developed much of a pattern. I began to think I wasn't ovulating! When, clearly I was. 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 9:27 PM
My temp went down again today.

I also have watery cm and a weiner of a husband who wont have sex again this morning, he is such an ar$ehole for being like this, he gets so scared about us having kids that it is getting old... oh I want a kids... oh we had unprotected sex.... oh we dont have to have sex, we had it 2 days ago and you got too much sperm in you then. Ah I am sick of it. Today he wouldnt have sex because it was 7am, and he wanted it at 6am , I tried to wake him at 6am but he grunted and ignored me, apparently he was still asleep. He also says that since i have put on weight he wont.... my weight fluctuates within 1.5kg, and it was at the heavier end.... anyway phone alarm going off again, had better get it. 

Name: Kristy84 | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 9:32 PM
Your husband won't have sex w/ you b/c of your weight?? Anyways he needs a swift kick in the ass...I bet TTC is stressful on both of you..so he doesn't want kids right now? 

Name: Kristy84 | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 9:32 PM
Your husband won't have sex w/ you b/c of your weight?? Anyways he needs a swift kick in the ass...I bet TTC is stressful on both of you..so he doesn't want kids right now?. 

Name: A Mom To Be | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 10:00 PM
He APPARENTLY wants kids, but if you ask me I think he is being a big kid himself. I feel like licking him up the front more than the back for 'lying' to me. 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 25th, 2007 10:13 PM
m2b, don't worry about your temp going down, it will fluctuate. You will normally see quite a spike and it will stand apart from your coverline and you will know.

If you temp properly, you will know your cycle in a month or 2, you do not need 6 months briseis, there are women who don't ovulate every month which will reflect in your chart. A temp spike is well above the coverline so you can't o at 36.5 if you have had several of the same temp readings in the same week. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 11:22 AM
Well according to my book - Toni Weschler's 'Taking Charge of your Fertility' which I read from start to finish, given she is the expert in this field, she says in order to have an understanding of your cycle, you should chart for 3-6 months to get an accurate understanding of your own cycle, and identify a pattern. Given that women can be stressed in any given month, or ill, then this can affect the cycle so the more cycles you chart, the better the understanding of your cycle you will have. :) 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 11:28 AM
I realised that you go above the coverline to establish ovulation. However, regardless of how well you temp, there are so many anomalies, eg a restless night, illness, and stress which can easily make your temperature shoot above the coverline, confusing you as to whether you ovulated or not UNLESS you have established a pattern based on at least 3-6 months of readings. In fact Toni Weschler recommends that you temp for at least 3 cycles before trying to get an understanding of your cycle. 1-2 months is certainly not enough. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 11:31 AM
A Mom To Be - Toni Weschler's 'Taking Charge of your Fertility' is a fantastic book, and highly recommended. It doesn't just cover Basal Body Temperature charting, it also covers cervical fluid testing as well. If you're looking to use these method, I recommend you read this book. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 11:35 AM
And Daisy, read this link on what the expert says.

http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak
/98-3/issue11/fertility.html

""I
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you don't have this most basic information, how can you integrate all the other information out there?" she asks. She suggests women try it even for a few months, just to get an idea of their own body's cycles." 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 11:43 AM
A Mom To Be; Not sure if this will be of any help to you at all. I found it online when I temped.

'Directions for charting Basal Body Temperature
A regular fever thermometer or special `metabolic` thermometer may be used.
Your temperature should be taken each morning at approximately the same time, immediately on awakening, before eating, talking, smoking, or arising.
The thermometer should be placed under your tongue, with the mouth closed, and left in place for five minutes, by the clock or when the electronic alarm sounds.
After you have taken your temperature, enter it in the online BBT charter on this website. Each daily dot will be joined to the previous day`s dot by means of a straight line.
Start a new graph with each menstrual cycle. The first day of your menstrual flow is day `1` of the new cycle. Your temperature need not be taken while you are having your menstrual period.
After your menstrual cycle has stopped, begin taking your temperature again
The chart has room for extra information, like
intercourse
vaginal bleeding
lower abdominal pain (possible ovulation)
spotting (possible ovulation)
thin vaginal discharge (possible ovulation)
recognized causes for temperature changes, such as a cold, other illnesses, indigestion, alcoholic beverages, restless sleep, going to bed late, arising late, etc.
It is necessary to record your temperature for at least three cycles before the graph is of much value. There will be many variations in individual graphs.'

Good luck. :) 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 1:32 PM
Even infertility specialists don't need 6 months, if they ask you to chart they request only 3 months. You get everything you need to know. I don't need the book. I knew the first month of temping the exact date I ovulated and from then on, I have ovulated around the same day every month.

She asked for an opinion on her chart, there is enough information there to confirm o'g or not. If you read the book then you would know what her coverline is and how many days to base that off of. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 2:00 PM
Yes Daisy, but every woman is different! Not every woman ovulates at the exact same time every month! I certainly didn't, as my pregnancy confirmed. Toni Weschler makes this exact point in her book. I don't know what A Mom to Be's coverline is because I only saw a few days of one cycle. I imagine it's 36.5, but that is only the coverline for this particular month. It's not the same every single month. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 2:02 PM
This is why you need to see a few cycles of temping before you can make any clear judgement. As I said, anywhere between 3-6, depending on how regular the woman in, and depending on how well she temps. Seeing a few days of one cycle has no real value is establishing when a particular woman regularly ovulates, not to mention the anomalies involved. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 2:06 PM
I'd say you're PROBABLY right in your interpretation of what you have seen of this cycle; she does need to go above the coverline in order to establish when she MAY have ovulated, IF 36.5 is indeed her coverline. Without at least 3 cycles, no expert can give any real interpretation of a woman's cycle, as you could be wrong in your assumption that 36.5 is her coverline. You seem to have decided that it is based on a few days of one cycle, when it may not neccessarily be. 

Name: briseis | Date: Apr 26th, 2007 2:20 PM
I used to think the same as you, until I read the book, and in reading it I realised how inaccurate BBT is in establishing ovulation. I thought all women established a coverline which would remain the same, all women would ovulate at around the same time every month. All complete nonsense. Some women, like you, do, making BBT very simple. But others, like me, don't. I have irregular cycles, sometimes I ovulate on Day 14, other times I ovulate on Day 28. I brought my charts to my midwife after discovering I was pregnant, and that conception took place 3 weeks earlier than my charts had told me, and she said because I'm irregular, as so many women are, then my coverline was so much lower on the month I got pregnant than I thought it was. In fact that month it was 36.1! Not every woman has perfect cycles like you Daisy. Please be aware of that before making decisions on another woman's cycle so readily. 

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