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Name: lynn
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I am due sept 1 and am struggling on giving my baby the right last name mine or his? We are not married but live together if something were to turn sour i dont want to lose chance of custody due to the child having his name versus mine.
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Name: . | Date: Jul 17th, 2005 3:35 PM
I don't think the last name of your child would affect anything when it comes to custody. Here in Wisconsin, you can give your baby any last name you want, you could pick the darn name out of a hat. My cousin has 2 children with a man that she is not married to and she gave them her last name, because she doesn't see herself ever marrying him, and there seems to be issues with school sometimes when the child has a different name than the mother, but it's really just confusion with the school. Do you see yourself possibly marrying him in the future? I am sure it costs a pretty penny to change a childs last name in the future, if you were to marry him and then at that time wanted the name changed. 

Name: maxamissy | Date: Jul 17th, 2005 8:46 PM
you could hyphen it. but yeah wont he pack a wobbly i know mine would if you can get away with it keep yours tell him it can have his when he marries you! whats in a name though your its mummy no one can take that away plus bubs will normally go to there mummies in custody unless you do something bad or are doing. in this day an age darls everyones got names from here and there i really dont think it matters do what matters to you what name you guys like you can always change it but you do need both parents to sign change if both are named parents. but do whats best for both of you! good luck! 

Name: HSH | Date: Jul 18th, 2005 3:05 AM
Why not hyphenate? Well, certainly if it's a girl, I've seen this done several times, with the mom's name first, then a hyphen, then the dad's name. I don't think there would be any legal reason for custody to become an issue in naming. 

Name: Pam | Date: Jul 18th, 2005 3:09 PM
You could hyphenate but if u don't want to. If u choose to give the baby his last name and u two don't work out you really don't have nothing to worry about. I live in Texas and its almost impossible for the man to get custody. Then on top of it if you decide u want him to carry the insurance and if u do break up and theres the child support its easier for the baby to have his last name. If you want to talk you can IM me at yahoo psweet97 or e-mail me [email protected] 

Name: Tee | Date: Jul 19th, 2005 8:06 PM
Girl, you had to carry the baby, deliver the baby, and everything else. Give the daddy something honey! That child along with the father deserves to have his dad's name. You shouldn't even let your mind go there as to think that things will turn sour. That's the wrong mindset and you should be considering marriage real soon. Not just because of the child but for the both of you. You live together, so go ahead and make it official. Hell, you do all the things married folks do anyway and you've got a child, just put a ring on yalls fingers honey! This will force him and you to get right if you aint. 

Name: ALLY | Date: Aug 1st, 2005 4:37 AM
put both surnames on certificate you can always change it by deedpoll afterwards i was in same situation but we did split (many different reasons everyone skips to a different tune keep skipping to yours)we all as mothers aspire to be perfect but we live in an idealistic world that dictates we must all conform. Be yourself, love yourself and all that you stand for,most of all love your child, they are sent here to try us but the joy and love you receive far outweighs any hardships. People forget that you cannot own a person or a soul and while we as parents are busy trying to hurt the other we often forget who hurts the most forget the issues submerge yourself in your baby and enjoy the excitement of being a mum . 


Name: amanda | Date: Aug 1st, 2005 4:47 PM
the last name doesn't mean anything you are always going to be it's mother! i'm due sept 8th and i'm not married to the father we are together and i'm going with his last name cuz i believe thats how it should be.... 

Name: heather | Date: Aug 1st, 2005 11:43 PM
WHAT? i dont think the last name affects who gets the baby if anything were ever to go wrong. whered you get that from? unless your baby's a hilton, i think your fine. custody goes on whos better off on giving the child its love and needs. if it helps, your baby can have both of your last names... 

Name: jdourt | Date: Jun 30th, 2007 5:40 PM
Turnip and Its Hybrid Offspring


Much confusion surrounded the origins, even the identity, of turnips and rutabagas, or "Swedes," for a long time. They are distinctly different species.

Most varieties of turnip are white-fleshed and most varieties of rutabaga are yellow-fleshed, but there are also white-fleshed rutabagas and yellow-fleshed turnips. Rutabaga leaves are smooth like cabbage leaves, while those of the turnip are somewhat rough, with sparse, stiff "hairs" over them.

The most significant difference between them, however, is in the make-up of their mechanisms of heredity, the structures of their individual cells. The turnip has 20 chromosomes, while the rutabaga has 38. And thereby hangs a tale-the tale of the origin of the rutabaga.

Study Indicates a Turnip-Cabbage Cross

Recent botanical detective work indicates that a rather rare kind of hybridization between some form of cabbage (18 chromosomes) and turnip (20 chromosomes) resulted in the new species, rutabaga (20 + 18 = 38 chromosomes).


No one knows when or where this occurred, but the new species was probably first found in Europe some time in the late Middle Ages. There was no record of it until 1620 when the Swiss botanist Caspar Bauhin described it.

Turnip (Brassica rapa) is of ancient culture, many distinct kinds having been known to the Romans at the beginning of the Christian Era. Some of those varieties bore Greek place names, indicating earlier culture and development by the ancient Greeks.

In the first century Pliny described long turnips, flat turnips, round turnips. He wrote of turnips under the names rapa and napus. In Middle English this latter term became nepe, naep in Anglo-Saxon. One of these words, together with turn ("made round"), became our common word "turnip."

Man appreciated the usefulness of the turnip during the prehistoric development of agriculture, and the plant was so easy to grow in so many places that it became widely distributed all the way from the Mediterranean across Asia to the Pacific.

The European types of turnip, our commonest kinds, developed in the Mediterranean area. The basic center of the Asiatic kinds is in middle Asia, west of the Himalayas. There are also two secondary centers-eastern Asia and Asia Minor.

The European type of turnip was grown in France for both food and stock feed at least as early as the first century after Christ.

In the England of Henry VIII, turnip roots were boiled or baked, the tops were cooked as "greens," and the young shoots were used as a salad. (In parts of our South today turnip leaves for greens are called "turnip salad.")

The turnip was brought to America by Jacques Cartier, who planted it in Canada in 1541. It was also planted in Virginia by the colonists in 1609 and in Massachusetts in the 1620's. The Indians adopted its culture from the colonists and soon grew it generally.

Since colonial times the turnip has been one of the commonest garden vegetables in America. It is primarily a cool-weather crop, suitable for summer culture only in the northernmost States or at high altitudes.

European varieties of turnips are biennial. One Oriental variety commonly grown here, however, called Shogoin, will go to seed in its first season if planted in the spring.

A few varieties of leaf turnips (no enlarged root) such as Seven Top are grown only for greens. The leaves of the turnip are usually rich in the minerals and vitamins that are essential to health, but the roots have a relatively low food value. In this country the roots are usually eaten boiled, either fresh or from pit or cellar storage. In Europe kraut is commonly made from the sliced roots.

Rutabaga Also Called "Swede"

Rutabaga (Brassica napobrassica) gets its name from Swedish rotabagge. In England and Canada it is commonly called "Swede," or "Swede turnip." The French called it navet de Suede (Swede turnip), chou de Suede (Swede cabbage), and chou navet jaune (yellow cabbage turnip). It was known in the United States about 1800 as "turnip-rooted cabbage." Although common names suggest a Scandinavian origin, this is not certain.

Rutabaga was apparently known on the Continent many years before it was grown in England. It was little known in England in 1664 when it was grown in the royal gardens. It was used for food in France and southern Europe in the 17th century. Both white and yellow-fleshed varieties have been known in Europe for more than 300 years.

The rutabaga requires a longer growing season than our turnips, but, like the turnip, it is sensitive to hot weather. Its culture is therefore confined largely to the northernmost States and Canada and to northern Europe and Asia. It is a staple crop in northern Europe, but a minor crop in America and in the Orient. It is more nutritious than the turnip, chiefly because it contains more solid matter 

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