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Thur night she started spewing and pooing, i thought 24 hour bug.. today is Monday and she is still spewing and pooing, wont eat and hasnt peed in 24 hours..still well enought to fight with her brother though.. shes 2 and a half!So were of to the doctor at 3 were hes going to say theres nothing we can do for her till shes that lathargic and dehydrated she cant move!OUr son was the same age when he got a nasty bug that made him puke and poop for nearly 4 weeks. he end up in hospital for 4 days on a drip!I wonder if this is the same bug.. its very rare here but in 3rd world countries kills people everyday. ↓
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| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:53 PM |
| Cryptosperidiosis! Think thats how you spell it! ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:54 PM |
| OOoo lana - you really need to insist that the doc does something for her like right away! If she's not peeing then that's very bad. ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:55 PM |
| How long have you got to wait now til you see him? ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:56 PM |
| 6 hours! Shes still playing at the moment but shes been laying down and falling alseep on the floor alot ↑ |
| Name: homemommichele | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:56 PM |
| There is one going around near here (PA) that lasts for about 5-7 days. It is nasty, my son missed a week of school because of it. It is a virus and just needs to run it's course. Hopefully that is all it is. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:57 PM |
| shes still talking and bossing her brother around.. I remember our son just layed there and didnt move.. didnt talk his eyes were rolling in his head... Id taken him to the doctor about 5 times though and they all said hell get over it.. well he didnt.. even when we came out of hospital he was still spewing and pooing for about a week! ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 10:59 PM |
| yeh weird how they call them a 24 hour bug and they last for a week! lol... i have heard they can last for more than a few days.. its just so hard seeing her like this ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 11:08 PM |
| she needs fluids in and fluids out! Tell them to do something - she's only little! ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 11:12 PM |
her lips are real dry
shes crying at the moment on me poor buba! I might ring the hospital and ask them to see her ↑ |
| Name: homemommichele | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 11:19 PM |
| Lana if she is showing signs of dehydration she definately needs to be seen. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 3rd, 2007 11:24 PM |
| On the way up to the hospital now! Post how she is later.. shes been crying alot today ↑ |
| Name: winnmom | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 12:31 AM |
lana....
hows your little girl? Any news? ↑ |
| Name: winnmom | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 12:31 AM |
| oh just noticed the times..... ↑ |
| Name: Leah81 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 12:54 AM |
| Think shes still at the hospital she will msn me as soon as she gets back.she want to anyway. ↑ |
| Name: .RoSey. | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 5:42 AM |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:07 AM |
She needs a fkn IV!!!!!!
Tell them to help her lana!!!!!!!
What a bunch of sh*ts! ↑ |
| Name: hdc_momof2 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:29 AM |
| omg lana a.s. is sooo right! you need to call them back! she hasn't even peed!?!? omg they should help her now! ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:30 AM |
| If a doctor did that to a kid in the UK he'd be tortured to death by the GMC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:30 AM |
| If you don't pee - it means that you are SERIOUSLY dehydrated!!!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:31 AM |
This can cause kidney damage!!!!!!!! Irreversibel kidney damage!!!!!!
She's just a baby........they need to admit her and set up a Saline IV!!!!!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: hdc_momof2 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:34 AM |
| THREATEN TO SUE THEM!!!!!!!!! that should get them to do something! ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 9:35 AM |
| I hope she's okay. I hate to hear about littlies being ill :-( ↑ |
| Name: Leah81 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 10:39 AM |
| She must be ok.Iam Lanas twin for those who didnt know and she hasnt told me anything.I was on msn all day asking how she went and was everything ok I even txt and got nothing.think someone(Lazy ass Husband)deleted them before she read them thats why she didnt reply.I had to read this post to find out what happend. ↑ |
| Name: Dana G | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 10:59 AM |
| Where are you at that a doc wouldn't treat a dehydrated kid? That doesn't even make sence! ↑ |
| Name: Leah81 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 11:05 AM |
| Doctors are pretty slack here in Australia.You nearly have to be dying for them to see you without an appointment.I was vomiting with diarea for 2 days and Im 14 weeks pregnant and they said if you are still sick tomorow go see your doctor.thats what the hospital told me.I hadnt eaten or drank anything and I have a 7 month old son to look after too.with no family around it was hard.all they had to do was put me on a drip for 2 hours and I would have been fine.they are really slack.And when it comes to little kids they should do something straight away. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 11:46 PM |
| Doctors suck!~ She is still spewing and pooing.. she ate dinner last night then 20 minutes later spew.. she had breaky this morn and 20 minutes later she spewed.. shes done 1 little wee in 48 hours and shes still got the poos. Shes still running around fighting with her siblings though.. bossing them around and all.. she spews in the loo or in the bath the good girl. its horrble to see your child sick though.. i hate being sick! Poor little thing. If there is no improvment today i will be taking her to my local doctor and demanding something be done or testing her to see what bug it is.. Kids here have to be nearly passed out before they do anything.. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 11:47 PM |
| My poor little girl, she went to sleep on me twice, and that hasnt happend in a while.. Hope she gets better soon ↑ |
| Name: Priscilla the Egg Tree | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 11:55 PM |
Give her some bananas and rice. Also, get some probiotic drinks.........the ones with the friendly gut bacteria in. It's worth a try.
I'm sorry that she's still sick. ↑ |
| Name: Priscilla the Egg Tree | Date: Jun 4th, 2007 11:58 PM |
Lactobacillus Therapy for Diarrhea in Children
Taking care of children with diarrhea is frustrating for both parents and Pediatricians, both because the symptoms can often linger for several weeks and because there are few (if any) treatment options.
The usual recommendations for treating children with simple diarrhea that is caused by a virus is to continue with the child's regular diet if it is being tolerated (not causing vomiting or increased diarrhea), give extra fluids, such as a few ounces of Pedialyte or other electrolyte solution, every time that he has diarrhea, and to avoid over the counter anti-diarrheal medications.
For children not tolerating their usual diet, a more bland diet, such as the BRAT (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce, Toast) diet, may be tried. If the diarrhea is made worse by milk and diary products, then your child may have a secondary lactase deficiency and might benefit from a trial off of milk, or a change to a lactose free or soy milk/formula.
A recent review article in the Journal Pediatrics, Lactobacillus Therapy for Acute Infectious Diarrhea in Children: A Meta-analysis, offers a new treatment.
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Well, not really a new treatment since it has been used for centuries, but at least the article offers some proof that it can be safety used in children. The article states that 'Lactobacillus is safe and effective as treatment for children with acute infectious diarrhea.'
What is Lactobacillus? It is a bacteria, and includes the strains L. bulgaricus, L. reuteri, L. GG, and L. acidophilus. Although it seems strange that you would actually want to feed your child bacteria, Lactobacillus is normally found in our intestinal tract.
How effective a treatment is Lactobacillus for children with diarrhea? Well, children in the studies who received Lactobacillus had about a half a day (0.7 days to be exact) decrease in the duration of their diarrhea, and 1.6 fewer episodes of diarrhea after the second day of treatment. So the effects of treatment weren't very impressive.
The main treatment remains the 'tincture of time' as they used to teach us in medical school, which means that you just need to give your child some time until he gets better on his own. If you feel the need to do something while you are waiting for the diarrhea to go away, or you think the small benefits are worth it, then giving Lactobacillus is definitely an option.
How do you give your child Lactobacillus? In the studies from the Pediatrics' journal report, most children received 10 to 100 billion colony forming units of Lactobacillus once or twice a day, so you would want to give an equivalent dose to get a comparable effect. Or at least try to reach the 'threshold dose' of 10 billion colony forming units during the first 48 hours.
One common way to give Lactobacillus is to just feed your child yogurt with live and active cultures, which means that the yogurt contains Lactobacillus bulgaricus and Streptococcus thermophilus. Some brands of yogurt also contain Lactobacillus acidophilus. Although most brands of yogurt do not list the amount of live and active cultures on the label, you can look for brands with the National Yogurt Association's Live and Active Culture seal, which must contain at least 100 million active cultures per gram. In a 4 ounce pack of yogurt, that should equal about 10 billion colony forming units, so eating 1-2 packs of yogurt a day should be about equivalent to what the children got in most of the studies.
Another way to give your children Lactobacillus is to have him take Acidophilus supplements. These are commercially available in powder, liquid, capsule, or chewable tablets and they generally have about 1.5 billion colony forming units per teaspoon or tablet. To reach the 'threshold dose', you would have to give 6-7 teaspoons or tablets a day though.
You may also be able to offer your child Acidophilus milk (cow's milk supplemented with acidophilus), although I am not sure how widely available or well tolerated it is.
When considering whether or not to offer your child Lactobacillus supplements when he has diarrhea, there are a few factors to consider. First, the children in the studies were hospitalized. There is no evidence yet that children with mild diarrhea who do not require hospitalization will have the same results. Also keep in mind that the effects were not that impressive and children only had about 1/2 day less diarrhea. And it may be hard to get your child to eat yogurt or take a supplement when he is already feeling sick and likely has a decreased appetite. In these children, pushing fluids will likely be your top priority to prevent dehydration.
Still, since it is safe and has some proven benefits, giving your child Lactobacillus is a good treatment option for children with acute infectious diarrhea. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 5th, 2007 1:17 AM |
| Thanks! Ive been giving her electrolite drinks and ice blocks. She just had lunch so well see if that stays down.. ↑ |
| Name: lana_81 | Date: Jun 5th, 2007 1:18 AM |
| she just did another little wee and it was so orange.. ↑ |
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