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Name: Trinni
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I've been having trouble with the elementary school in the district we moved in last year. My 10 year old and my 5.5 year old have been enrolled in this school since the beginning of this year. Since the second day of school there has been probems. The principal must have went into my 10 year old's fifth grade class, stood at the door and loudly told him to tell his mom to teach his 5.5 year old brother the rules of this school( 5.5 year old is in kindergarden, and was on the playground acting like he was the rock with two friends and got sent to the office for pretending he was a wrestler). Then she must have sent me a paper that friday with eleven exclamation points on it saying the same thing. I lil boy called my 5.5 year old son a "ni**er" because he wouldn't let him butt in the breakfast line and struck my son three times....nothing was ever done. however my son was sent to the office for jumping in place because he had to pee pee, and ended up having an acident. Now I have a fifth grade teacher calling me leaving me offensive messages stating that my son was a liar in so many words, I addressed her about the situation and then she started writing me telling me the same thing...now last thursday when I went up to the school to because my son ws not able to go to his new reading program because of an ignorant teacher(i called to talk about the issue the day before at 3:08, but suddenly there weren'tany teachers in the school and the principal was in a meeting.) They had nasty mouths and bad adittudes and pissed me off. I took my children out of that school last wednesday. I am still today trying to get my children in another school...preferably their old school where they have always been and my 8 year old is still there because it is the best school for his iep(he has spina bifida and has a great nurse all day in school and it is like home to us....but the funny thing is that all of the other schools have a high enrollment and cannot take our children....funny huh....if anyone has any advice PLEASE fill me in
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Name: Trinni | Date: Dec 14th, 2005 1:53 PM
oh sorry but I forgot to say that I am 18 weeks preggo and that I am high risk...I also forgot to say that the bus driver must have hollered at me and tried to close his doors on me. 

Name: Angela | Date: Dec 14th, 2005 6:05 PM
I would go to the head of the school district, your children and you deserve alot better then that! I can not believe they would treat your family that way! If it were me I would go to the school district and complain, the school district needs to know what kind of teachers, principles and bus drivers they have. And maybe they can arrange for your children to be put in a different school. I have not done home schooling myself, but that might be another option for you. I'm sorry you have been treated this way, try to relax for the baby you r carrying and I hope things start looking up for you and your family! 

Name: stephanie | Date: Dec 16th, 2005 2:16 AM
I would consider homeschooling...its easy and you dont have to put up with the bullcrap from school. I have a son 12 and because of the public school and their ways I was tired of I chose to teach him at home.I just seen where your pregnant...this may not be the best option but from what i have learned its less stressful to have the kids at home..I too had a high risk pregnancy where i lost my baby at months..this is what made me start homeschooling because I was back and forth to doctors...Good luck 

Name: julie | Date: Dec 22nd, 2005 12:39 PM
I'd go down to the court house and see if you could transfer schools . You just need to clear it with the judge. Good luck! Oh maybe going to the school board 

Name: . | Date: Dec 23rd, 2005 2:48 PM
I would definatley go to the school district! Everything they have done is very wrong! I would pull my kids out of there! 

Name: * | Date: Dec 23rd, 2005 5:23 PM
I would take it to the school district and to the press. :) Maybe that would get them to change their minds about how they treat children :) 


Name: Ann | Date: Jan 6th, 2006 4:46 PM
Good luck!! I have 3 kids all in elementary school and have had minor(not like yours) problems wwith afew of the ways the teachers grade and speak to their students and what I have learned is that the teachers, principal, and superintendent stick together.I like the idea of going to the media especially if you have kept the notes that were sent home and saved any of the phone calls so that you can provide proof that the teachers are the ones acting like children 

Name: Rian | Date: Jan 6th, 2006 5:41 PM
I would contact the school board and state every incident that has happened. Also, write a letter to the president of the school board and make a copy of it so that there is documentation of the incidents that have happened. Do not allow these people to get away with abusing your family! You are obviously a caring mother and you want your child's education to be an enriching experience so definitely contact the school board. Maybe use an answering machine with a tape to record messages that are deurrogatory to keep as records or any letters that have been written regarding anything that has happened. I think you can contact someone in the local city council who can direct you to someone from your school board if you do not want to call the principal and ask who the president of the school board is. Best wishes and keep us posted. 

Name: curios... | Date: Jan 21st, 2006 4:07 PM
if you have an update on this Trinni? 

Name: lili | Date: Feb 9th, 2006 11:06 PM
Public schools are bad. yes kids can learn there, but only if their parents are extremely inolved. I would suggest taking your kids to chartet schools, which are still free but not bound by all the union rules, meaning if a teacher is incompetent she can and will be fired. 

Name: mary | Date: Feb 9th, 2006 11:33 PM
That principle is wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Call the Superintendent and report her to him/her and the school board. Always put your complaint in writing and keep a copy. Legally they must keep a file when you do this which will back you up. Fight for your kids rights. 

Name: mary | Date: Feb 9th, 2006 11:33 PM
I too would either home school or send them to Christian school. 

Name: Ally | Date: Feb 11th, 2006 1:44 AM
I'm sorry. I'm not sure where you live...but I never heard of a public school system that allows you to pull kids out and switch schools in this manner? Where do you live. First of all, if you can remeber all the incidents that occurred, write them down and document it. I would then make an appointment to meet with the Superintendent of schools and explain your situation. Show them everything that you have documented. The Superintendent should respond. Also, depending on what state you live in, you can get a "parent advocate" to help you. This is a person who can help you "fight" those battles. Call the department of education in your state and they can tell you how to get one. Good luck 

Name: Agnes | Date: Feb 12th, 2006 1:41 AM
As a public school teacher with some experience in these things, both as teacher and mom, I would suggest that you request a meeting in writing. Request that the principal, counselor, and all involved teachers be there at once. When you write the letter, don't make it accusatory. Make the letter sound like you are concerned about your children's behavior. Then, in the meeting, get to the bottom of it all. Tell them you'd like a written plan put into place. 

Name: Deb | Date: Feb 12th, 2006 2:14 AM
In response to: "I never heard of a public school system that allows you to pull kids out and switch schools in this manner?"
I think it's a shame that we feel we have to answer to the public schools. Who do the children belong to, the parents or the government? If you want your children to have the best, then you have to take your authority, which you have, since they are your children, and do what's best for them. Fight for thier in the public school system, or take them out of the public school and homeschool, charter school, private school, whatever. Your children belong to you, and their future should depend on the decisions that you make for them, not someone else. 

Name: lili | Date: Feb 13th, 2006 11:01 PM
" Your children belong to you, and their future should depend on the decisions that you make for them, not someone else. "
That is very true, but considering our tax money goes to our local public school should we decide not to send to our child there, I feel the money should follow the child to whatever school we decide to put him/her into. Better yet it should be mandatory that if you are a civil servant like a senator, congressman etc., your child should have to attend public school. Maybe then all the law makers wold grasp the severe importance of this public school issue. It is like a cycle put in place to ensure that the rich remain rich and the poor for the most part remain poor, because no matter what anyone wants to say everything begins with education. We had no choice but to scrape and save to send our daughter to Catholic school, although I am not Catholic just because it was a great school and our zoned public school was a disaster. Thankfully they started a charter school last year which meets all of my criteria and is not zoned so I will hopefully be sending her there next year, but I will still have to send my other child to Catholic school for pre-k since the charter school does not have pre-k.
My oldest daughter had the best experience at pre-k there not only educationally but socially and I feel it is only fair to give that to my other child as well. My feeling is that if I decided to send my child to private school, part of my tax money should go there instead of my local public school.
Honestly I do not hold much hope for change in our school system, unless there is some kind of revolt by the parents. 

Name: Deb | Date: Feb 15th, 2006 12:16 AM
lili That is so true, and you will be so blessed and rewarded by the decisions you have made for your kids. I agree that their will not be any changes in public school unless parents revolt! I tried to get a book out of my son's school library that had porn in it and boy was that a fight I stood alone on. There were a few who came up beside me, but what's 20 in a town of 70,000. But when they talked about doing away with swim team the parents came out! Unfortunately most parents are oblivious to what is going on in the school building and some don't care. 

Name: Maxie | Date: Feb 15th, 2006 3:41 AM
Put your finger to your lips and then go back and forth , back and forth, back and forth. Ya know that sound you hear... thats me. I next on the critical care list of the public school system. Its no diffrent in Canada. Its so full of politics it is difficult to keep down.

Oh Lili you are so very correct. Any politician in any country especially in North America, should indeed have to educate their children is the same system they create for the rest of us. Oh what a change we would see. Ya know, when you think about it... there are really so very few of them and so very many of us...why do they not have to? They work for us. We pay their wages. I just dont understand that. And my soap box is to low!!!!LOL.

I must document everything. Its like having a position in an executive firm. If you dont follow up and insure the line is towed... it isnt going to be. And there will be boat loads of room to say with shrugging sholders and bobbing heads "I didnt know. You didnt mention. Did that come up and did we talk about it. I dont recall." You know the bull. But truly ,I think if you want to see success in the form of whatever good education comes from public school...you need to hang over all the issues and insure they are either met or followed through.

I get very involved with my childs education and take on a good part of it in terms of time spent teaching and practicing at home. We are only in primary grades. I dont just leave it up to them and up to my child. Its a lot of work and effort by to be sure. I know if I dont do it, I can likely just watch her slowly begin a educational course of nothing but struggle. I want better for her and my son. So I have to take charge.

I never heard of a charter school. Oh my goodness, you mean to tell me that there is a school that actually insists the employees preform their duties!!! Here Here!!!!! Loud Loud Applause!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh they are so going to hate me...well not if I handle it right. I am going to ya know....just kinda gently ask around and guide conversation in that general arena and see what happens. Maybe I live in a cave here and simply havent heard of them...yet.

Deb and Lili you guys are form the States so maybe just maybe it isnt so much my cave lifestyle, just we dont have them yet...he, he, he,,,,,but I'm gonna find out girls. Imagine somewhere is a school where the teachers are accountable.??!!!!!?!

I sound so down on teachers, actually I'm not its the system they are bound to and have become comfortable with. There are in fairness, some outstanding very interested and careing teachers...sadness is...not so many...not enough.

Thanks for letting me vent its been a couple of nasty documenting days and I just thought I would read through.

Charter schools huh. Hummmm. 

Name: ........................ | Date: Apr 30th, 2006 1:36 AM
Havent you all heard of private schools? 

Name: to "................." | Date: May 1st, 2006 2:36 AM
Can we have your gobs of money? 

Name: ......................... | Date: May 1st, 2006 3:20 AM
I dont have gobs of money. We just budget carefully and our kids come first. 

Name: TO"........" | Date: May 1st, 2006 5:09 PM
I imagine you believe you are the only one who budgets and thinks of their children first. Sounds that way to me. What a quip response. Not to mention your first note indicated, we were all according to you, to stupid to know there are private schools. For someone so brillient and persnickity...you fall below the radar when it comes to understanding. We budget too...read the posts. Everone is doing there best. You may just have more to budget with. We could budget untill we sqeeked and it wouldnt get us to private schools. Were we live, private schools=unbelieveable amounts of money. They usually do. Try the advice on the sahm's rich and famous forum. PISS OFF. 

Name: ........................ | Date: May 3rd, 2006 10:30 AM
Actually you took what I said out of context. I didnt say I was better than any of you or you didnt put your kids first. All I was saying was if someone treated my children the way the woman who wrote this post described the treatment of her children, I would be looking at alternative schools which were more to my liking and that included looking into private schools even if I needed to miss out on a couple of luxuries thats all.Sorry if I hit a nerve, but theres no way I would put my kids through what Trinni was describing. 

Name: To "..........." | Date: May 4th, 2006 2:54 AM
What a better way of saying the same thing. I take it back. 

Name: Stacy | Date: May 4th, 2006 5:46 AM
Trinni,
So how are you doing? Did anything get fixed at that hell hole of a school? Are your kids doing OK? Is your baby doing OK?

No one should have to go through what you and your family has. 

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