I figured out why you are on this site momof1. I find it interesting that you stated ,"I'm in this for the money." when you were explaining your job as a surrogate.
See I found that statement in a quote from you.....
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Name: momof1 •
"we have agreed to implant 3 embroys at a time. odds are if might not even take the first time. I will not carry more than triplets. I'm willing to try as many times as the family I'm working with wishes.
Yes I will be compesated for this. I'm in this for money," ↓
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| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:20 PM |
You are charging $18-$22 thousand just for compensation according to your quote. That doesn't include extra expenses.
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Name: momof1 • Date: 08/31/2006 17:03:49
I know that I do not want a family to go into debt to have a child. I do not come on this site to find a family. But I have had alot of people email me. And I have found a wonderful family I'm speaking with. But they way you phrase "what are you women charging"... I find a little insulting. You make it sound that all we are doing is trying to make money. I wish I could have a child for another family and do it for nothing. But I'm not in that position. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for money. But I just can't do that. I know for a fact that alot of first time surrogate mothers can charge anywhere for $18-$22 thousand just for their compensation.
And then there are extras...for example:
1. travel expenses
2. maternity clothes
3. money for the implantation of the embryo (for a GS), and for insemenation (for a TS)
4. extra for carrying multiples
5. extra for a c-section
6. house cleaning (for later on in pregancy)
7. insurance (only if the surrogate insurance will not cover it)
plus there can be other expenses.
I'm asking for a between $15-$18 thousand. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:22 PM |
#6. House Cleaning
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When I was pregnant I did this myself. Why would you charge for this? ↑ |
| Name: Anne | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:24 PM |
Luckey,
You are pathetic..........you have taken her out of context, you conveniently stopped copying and pasting MID SENTENCE when it was convenient for you.
NO, she cannot be a surrogate for no compensation. Would you subject your body to a pregnancy, for a baby you were blessing ANOTHER couple with for absolutely nothing? I don't think so.
I am so sorry the day you found this place.
You have no right right harassing the regulars, and badgering birthmoms when they post.
Go crawl under a rock. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:32 PM |
| This is compensation for reproductive labor. ↑ |
| Name: Anne | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:40 PM |
| Yes, it is! Most surrogates get 30K to 55K ! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:41 PM |
It also looks like Carolyn didn't like this discussed on this board.
This is one thing I agree with Carolyn about.
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Name: Carolyn Title: This is an ADOPTION site, NOT surrogacy..............
Ladies that are interested in surrogacy, it would be in your best interest to take your advertisements to
www.surromomsonline.com
People hear are looking for BIRTHMOMS, not surrogates or this would be called a SURROGACY board.
Just my opinion. Anyone else share it as well ? ↑ |
| Name: Carolyn | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:46 PM |
Dear Luckey-
Now you are talking about something you know nothing about.
The post you have now taken, the forum was at that time being overrun with supposed surrogates, (not Momof1), that was only soliciting themselves here. Not posting for any other purpose.
Momof1 is our friend; she is welcome here always. She posts on all topics.
Don't refer to her only posting where she was offering to help a couple achieve their dream.
So Luckey, you and I still don't agree. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:49 PM |
Anne,
She said she was in it for the money.Here is the complete quote from momof1:
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Name: momof1 • Date: 10/23/2006 02:21:58
we have agreed to implant 3 embroys at a time. odds are if might not even take the first time. I will not carry more than triplets. I'm willing to try as many times as the family I'm working with wishes.
Yes I will be compesated for this. I'm in this for money, and I wish I could do this free of charge. But my body will be going through alot during pregnancy.
I have to take 6 weeks of shots to prepare my body for pregnancy. So I know that I am not looking forward to the shots, but it's something that has to be done. As for when they impant the embroy's. I have been told that it's uncomfortable, but not painful. I have already had a full exam with my doctor, and I have been given a clean bill of health.
I have the full support of my family and friends. Everyone can't wait till the day I can call and say I'm pregnant. ↑ |
| Name: Anne | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:50 PM |
| Why are you here Luckey? Are you a disgruntled birthmom, or do you work for or own a adoption agency? ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:52 PM |
| It would be different if no compensation was involved, excluding medical costs. I do not agree with a woman's reproductive organs being used as a business. ↑ |
| Name: Anne | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 11:52 PM |
| So, she needs compensation. That is understandable! What does that have to do with you? ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:01 AM |
I do not think it is morally right to treat a woman's womb as a commodity to house the fetus, which can be rented for a few months for a amount of money. I don't think women should be used as human incubators. The relation between the surrogate and the child is commercial rather than emotional.
Is it morally right for a woman to offer herself for a fee, procreate and then sell the child? I say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:15 AM |
| That was a typo... it's funny how you didn't "cut and paste" the rest of what I wrote. I'm not in this for the money, but being a surroagte I will receive compensation. I also said that I wish I could do this free of charge. Why are you trying to cause trouble? ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:17 AM |
| and luckey... I didn't say what I was asking... I said that is what I have found to be the average. I have never posted what I'm asking. ↑ |
| Name: nyjocool | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:19 AM |
| Luckey-if you fee so bad for people who can't have children of their own, why don't you offer to be a surrogate for FREE, so some deserving couple can have a baby they so badly hoped for. That would really be making a difference in the world! They will cover your medical expenses but they won't give you a dime if you want to buy maternity clothes at Sears. You can put your life at risk in the interest of helping others out, Hell, way back when, my sister offered to carry a baby for us and I said no. If I had said yes, I would have bought her maternity clothes, had her house cleaned, spoiled her rotten, etc. and probably offered her some small amount of money as a gift as we would have been so appreciative of her doing this. I would have been insulted if she did not take it. She nearly died from Pre-emclampsia in 1996 and she still offered. So are you available for free surrogacy service?? ↑ |
| Name: nyjocool | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:22 AM |
| Luckey-I guess you don't believe in egg donors or sperm banks either! They cost money. Not everyone here is lucky enough to have children naturally. Surrogacy and adoption are legal ways to build your family. Yes, they cost money, and to some they are contraversial, but it's nothing new and it is legal in the US. Why are you living in the dark ages? It's 2006, families are formed many ways. Stop being so negative. ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:22 AM |
| Thank you everyone for your support...and luckey i don't know what your problem is. I wish I could do this and not ask for anything, but I can't. Before you start bashing someone you need to read EVERYTHING that is said. ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:28 AM |
| luckey... one more thing. I;m asking for you not to talk about me, I have never done anything to you. YOu don't know anything about me. You are making me out to be someone who will do anything for money, and I take true offense to that. I have been blessed with a beautiful little boy. And I'm excited to help another family experince the most precious gift. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:36 AM |
| I think we differ on one very important point. I view parenthood as a privilege--not a right! ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:41 AM |
| yes being a parent is a privledge. But if you can not have children and you want a family you have to go about it in other ways. ↑ |
| Name: mommyboo | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 12:51 AM |
| I think any women who is willing to help a family out who cant be blessed with having a baby alone is a great women...It takes so much to do this.You really and I cant stress this enough really need to stop causing trouble and just go away.We all know how you feel on here but if you dont like what is said here then just quit reading the posts and let people do and say what they want.If we feel something isnt right then we will handle it .Its our own faults if we happen to not check everything out and end up scammed or something.You have made your point so please stop.Try talking about something different on another forum.If you are a sahm then go post there but not about us on here.If you have teens post there but not about us.Get the picture.I hope so ↑ |
| Name: juliedunesnet | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:06 AM |
| Luckey if you really feel the way you do, have a look at surromomsonline.com...they have a great forum and you could discuss your views in great depth over there. ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:07 AM |
| julie.. they would kick out so quickly she wouldn't know what hit here. Surromomsonline is moderated (unlike here) ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:07 AM |
| Name: juliedunesnet | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:09 AM |
| Sssshhhhh momof1 that was the idea...sssshhhhhhh! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:24 AM |
I view surrogacy as reproduction prostitution!
If you want a child so much, adopt a child no one else wants! One that is sitting in an orphanage and waiting. Try China, Africa, .......
My guess is that you want to choose the sex, color and age of the child you adopt. That is why I see this whole thing as selfish! ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:28 AM |
| HOLD UP... how dare you say that surrogacy is like prostitution. And what right do you have to tell someone that they should go to another country and adopt. Look at what Madonna had to go through to adopt from Africa, and she is a celebrity. And there is nothing wrong for a family to want a baby with the same ethnic background. Who are you to make these statements!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: momof1 | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:29 AM |
| your really starting to piss me off, and that takes allot. ↑ |
| Name: nyjocool | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:35 AM |
If international adoption was not expensive and dependent on the government of that particular country, more of us would be pursuing it.
If you know of an international adoption agency that will only charge for legal processing, preparing documents and only what is pertinent to the adoption, please do let me know. I'd be willing to pay 10 grand plus travel. Agencies are rediculously high, quite inflated since the goverment $10,000 tax credit.
I don't understand, you have a problem with a surrogate mom providing a service and charging thousands of dollars, but you DON'T have a problem with agencies charging us through the nose for just doing some legwork for us-I guess they are providing a service too-right? That is a contradiction.
FYI-I reseached at length adopting from the Ukraine-you can pick the sex, age, look, etc. of your child from the orphanage. There are no referrals in advance. It's like shopping for a puppy-the orphanage director shows you a binder with pictures of all the kids-you point out the ones you would like to meet in person while you are there and they call them down to the playroom. I guess adopting from a Ukrainian orphanage is selfish then.
Learn your facts. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:39 AM |
Nyjocool:
There is a huge difference between adoption agencies and surrogacy. I do not think it is morally right to treat a woman's womb as a commodity to house the fetus, which can be rented for a few months for a amount of money. I don't think women should be used as human incubators. The relation between the surrogate and the child is commercial rather than emotional.
Is it morally right for a woman to offer herself for a fee, procreate and then sell the child? ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 6th, 2006 1:39 AM |
| It does stink of reproduction prostitution! ↑ |
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