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Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 5:30 AM
thank you everyone so much .. i took him outside and walked back forth pacing going shhh .. calmed him right down. then about 40 mins later he was hungry and whaling again but he ate and passed out for nearly 4 hours, so we checked him changed his diaper fed him againa nd he is out cold again. i figure from all the screaming and crying and lack of sleep thats why he is so sleepy. but i got the best little nap in the world, so much more calm now. scott laid beside me and played with my hair til i was out cold. and then he let me sleep when he woke up. i even woke up to him handing me food and water hehe.. we felt bad waking up braden but i was told never to let him go past 4 hours without eating, so i had to give him some nummies. but he is passed out on daddies chest so we'll see 

Name: missmara | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 5:33 AM
I was thinking about you and just hopped on! I'm so glad you got through it and that Braden and you are getting some well deserved rest. Each one of these episodes (sorry, there will be more of them lol) will build your confidence and help you get to know Braden better. Before you know it, you will be able to know what he wants and needs before he does, and then the crying will decrease so much. Remember you're learning a foreign language, but soon each of his cries will sound different and you will know just what he's asking for! You're doing a great job and Braden is very lucky to have Scott and you for his parents:) 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 5:48 AM
thanks mara, but scott is doing the work. he asked earlier if i was alrigh and i was like in all honesty im ready to rip my damn hair out. im gonna finish pumping and we're gonna have some soup and watch happy feet on the laptop while laying in bed.. hopefully we get to watch the whole thing, thanks again everyone sooo much help 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 6:31 AM
Coartney, it may just be the adjustment to breastmilk and formula combination. Breastmilk is more pure and will cause soft poo and could actually poo alot in one day whereas formula has a lot of stuff in it making the poo more firm. Eventually, he will adjust.

You're going to wear yourself out at the rate your going and you won't be good to anyone, so you need to take care of yourself as well. When I say that, I'm talking about nursing, pumping, formula feeding all at different times, you are going to wear your body out and you're already tired with a new baby. My biggest success with breastfeeding was nursing him on one side while pumping on the other and then switching him to the other side for the next feed and pumping the other. I always had plenty of milk for him. You want to completely empty the breasts each time.

You may also want to try other bottles. Some babies are just gassy, Ethanael was. We had a ton of Avent bottles that claim less air but we found that opposite, this also makes them spit up more. Then we switched to Dr Browns bottles and the gas and spitting up were practically gone. We were giving him mylocon drops (sp) too, but I hate to have to give a baby drops if a bottle will help.

Trust me, sweetie, it will get better. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 8:09 AM
ill have to try the whole pumping while feedingt hing. my biggest concern is he isnt getting enough when on the breast. he always wants more afterwards and when i try to put him back on he flips 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 8:20 AM
u know what sitting here delerious, it just clicked. if i breast feed, and pump at the same time, not only am i upping my supply, ill have a bottle with breastmilk in case he isnt getting enough out of the breasts.. brilliant you are. 


Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 8:37 AM
it really does help get your supply up, make sure you drink plenty of water. Normally a baby will quit nursing when they are full, but your little guy is in a different situation where he has had a bottle from day one, he'll catch on. Try keeping him at the breast when he's done and see if that might help as well.

I used both the harmony and electric when feeding and pumping this way, just depended on the mood I was in and which one was ready to go.

I don't know what it's like in Florida, but in NC, we actually qualified for wic, the wages were pretty high and we were both working. Anyway, wic will either supply you with a free single electric pump or will loan for free a hospital grade pump with all new parts. I went just for that. They asked me why I was there and I told them, they're used to women coming in because of the free formula, which would be great if needed. Check with your local office, I know you already have a pump, but the hospital grade ones are great and not too big. Plus you do get vochers for yourself since you are nursing. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 9:44 AM
yeh i have the harmony and the single electric by medela .. i love them both ... he just fed on both sides for 15 mins each and is now passed out and im sitting here pumping.. i couldnt figure out how to pump with him on one boob so i will just pump afterwards for n additional 15 mins on each one. that should be good. 

Name: Daisy-UK | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 11:18 AM
I have big boobs as well, so it is quite a site to see trying to pump and nurse without smothering baby. I had to do the technique in bed, but I would get the pump in place and support it with my leg, baby would be propped on pillow and then I would hold my breast for him, if not he would get a face full of boob. I would usually be done expressing before he finished, he was a lazy baby at times.

My husband would always giggle at me when he saw this, it was quite funny to see.

My main goal with this was to avoid pumping at any other times. And this worked until I went back to work. I worked for Dillards as the Bridal Consultant, but after my leave I went back to sales because I only wanted part time. Then I found out my replacement was making more than me and had no experience. Later found out that Dillards is like that and thought best for me to move on. Got a sales position at David's part time, but at busy season it's more like 35 hours and you're lucking to get a 15min break. I could express milk as much as I wanted at Dillards and could use the dressing room that had an outlet. But at David's not only did I not get a break, but they told me the only place to express was the men's room, yuck, there was no chair or outlet either. When I was lucky enough to get a break, I'd spend it in my van expressing. In the end, I made to a little over 9 months, my supply was just dwindling. I was so upset. Dillard's was my favorite job. I don't intend of going back to work over here just yet. 

Name: bundy_mum | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 11:39 AM
hey courney, well my daughter for the first 6 months non stop cried i changed her formula 3 times andshe still cried. So i ended up going to a natrapath and he told me she was lactos and tolerant and wheat intolerent and couldnt have soy either so she ended up having to have goats milk and after that she stopped crying 

Name: jillw | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 2:29 PM
hay hun it sounds like you ae doing what you can. Try wraping him tight in a blanket and laying him over your legs. and sort of bounce your legs lightly. It used to help jeremiah when he was fussy over gas. or like I always say turn on the vacume cleaner and put him in his swung right next to it. I know it sounds nuts but it works. Also when jeremiah was new I over fed hima nd he screamed for days. I fed him every time he cried with a bottle and he is miserable. I hear that you can't over feed a breast fed baby, but I know you can over feed a bottle fed baby so try to see how much he is getting he may not be hungry, but jsut want to suck on something. After those tow I am out of ideas :( He may jsut need a good cry. 

Name: automansgirl | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 2:33 PM
Hey Coartney, sorry you were having so much trouble with Braden. I was thinking back and remembered one of the ladies on here saying that when her baby would get like that she would fill up a ziplock back with warm water and put it on baby's belly. Hopefully you won't have many days like that, but if you do I guess you could try that little trick. 

Name: angelpuff84 | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 2:54 PM
COARTNEY......My baby boy is just a couple weeks older than yours....We have been going thru the same problems. To be honest the only thing that has seemed to work for us is letting him sleep in his car seat....Please no one yell at me for this as his doctor said it was fine as long as we set it up the right(safe) way. If you have the head support thing in his car seat than sit him in cover him up and rock him in the seat. If you don;t have the head support thing and have one of the things to keep them from rolling over in the crib use it. We lined the seat with a blanket laid the roll over wedge in and put him in it covered him up and rocked him and he finally fell alseep. His doctor said that he is having problems getting rid of all of his gas and sleeping sitting up helps it work out of his body on its own. It has really been helping. If this behavior continues it is worth it just to try this and see if it works....the first time you may have to rock him a little bit but it has saved my sanity and allowed my baby to rest also...hopefully this helps if nothing else know your not alone and I too have cried my eyes out of the same thing.... 

Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 3:45 PM
Sit the hell still and rock him... Sometimes they are just over stimulated.. Calm down and hold him... 

Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 3:45 PM
I had to push my son around the house in the stroller for about two months... 

Name: tabbyd | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 9:30 PM
You might just be one of the lucky ones with a colic baby! Try giving him a warm bath? If his stomach is hard he probly has a tummy ache? My son always liked it when I rubbed around his eyes softly. Sing to him. My son was colic, and he had a hernia it was all because I had dairy in my diet. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 9:31 PM
yeh im lactose intolerant myself so i drink skim milk if any .. im thinking i should pick up some prenatal vitamins so he is getting all the nutrients still not sure if thats okay to do though? 

Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 9:37 PM
OH Yeah... You should definitely be taking vitamins... Just be careful not to have the ones with the added iron or you will both get constipated. 

Name: blondiess4u | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 10:08 PM
The prenatal vitamins at GNC are good! They don't have any iron. 

Name: missmara | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 10:11 PM
Most doctors will recommend that you continue your prenatals while breastfeeding.

Just wondering - a lot of people have recommended giving him a warm bath, but has his umbilical cord fallen off yet? Cause if not, then DON'T give the bath just yet lol! But when he can have a bath, that always calmed Sophie. There's a saying - something like put a fussy baby in water...It works for most. 

Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 10:33 PM
yeh i gave hima spongebath the other day but im not allowed to bathe him til the rest falls off.. i know that, thast why i havent given him a warm bath.. i usually just wipe him down everyday with wipes, in the creases and what not, make sure its dry and put a little lotion on him.. he's doing good though i think it was just a thing yesterday . as for the vitamins, ill get those, the ones i was taking didnt have iron in them but they still made me very sick on top of my severe vomiting so i was advised to stop taking them while pregnant just eat as best i could. b ut ill def have to get more now. no iron. check. 

Name: tattudemom | Date: Apr 27th, 2007 10:50 PM
Hey Coartney. I'm not a new mom, but my son had colic for four long months. Here are some things that helped him:

When you swaddle him, do it tightly around his midsection and then hold him with his belly to yours.

When you do the walk/bounce thing, pat his butt pretty hard.

You might have to switch to one of the specialty/soy formulas like Isomil or Nutramigen if he's not getting better.

The swing will definitely help, and if he falls asleep in it and his head is not slumped, leave him there to nap.

Start him on diluted cereal bottles earlier than some folks suggest. It definitely helped my son not to go between emptiness and gas so much.

Roll a blanket into a long hose shape and even tape it securely with medical tape or such. Curl the edges up to make a horseshoe shape to go around him in sleep. It's like a nest they do for the preemies in NICU.

Also, fill a brand new sock with raw rice and sew the end shut to use as a heating pad (warmed in the microwave). Test it on yourself just as you would formula inside your wrist. Put it against his belly when he's crying and when you lay him down. Make sure there's enough clothing between his belly and the rice sock so as not to burn him from long use.

When all else fails, make sure you take a break from the crying even if it's for five minutes. I know firsthand how it feels to be helpless and sleepless with your baby hurting. Take care. 

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