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| Name: Loritolay | Date: Jul 20th, 2006 8:52 PM |
| What the hell is a childminder??? ↑ |
| Name: timmygirl | Date: Jul 21st, 2006 12:56 AM |
| oh my gosh, I didn't know there's so much hatred here between working moms and sahm's... I will be a working mom after my baby is born next year... I have to, to be able to pay bills... hubby and I share financial responsibilities, including college bills. I don't disrespect stay-at-home-moms... they work hard raising their kids... working moms are working hard too- go to work to be able to feed their kids and take care of the kids when at home. ↑ |
| Name: Ashlie | Date: Jul 21st, 2006 5:52 PM |
| OH please she sounds like she just wanted a little attention. You have to do what you have to do to get by, even if it means working. Or on the other hand you have your wonderful children to look forward to seeing at the end of every stressful day at work! This woman needs to get her priorties straight!!! I know plenty of stay at home moms that are worthless and dont even take care of their kids. ↑ |
| Name: Lynne n | Date: Jul 21st, 2006 8:24 PM |
| Such a old post it has been forgetten about and i think everyone should do the same! How are you all? ↑ |
| Name: mommy2468 | Date: Aug 15th, 2006 11:48 PM |
| Your right sunshine, I know plenty of stay at home moms who are much less attentive then I am with my child. I do not have a choice, I have to work. But even if it was a choice, what some of you are saying is that you need to be with your child 24/7 to love them more. That is crazy. Most working moms still spend a lot of time with their children (it's not like we work 24 hours a day outside the home). And when they start Kindergarden then the stay at home moms are staying at home when the kids are in school. So how is that a better mom? In fact moms that do work have so so many extra responsibilities I cannot imagine that it would really be a choice. Kudos to you that have chosen husbands that can support the family. Not all of us have that luxury. I love my daughter more then life itself and because I work and do not see her 24/7 does not mean we do not spend a lot of great quality time together. And that last statement you made angel-shame on you! That is just ignorance. Not only am I a great loving mom, but I am proud of my career and want to set an example to my kids that they to can be successful, have children, and a career and make a contribution to the world in more ways then one. ↑ |
| Name: momof3 | Date: Aug 17th, 2006 7:21 PM |
| Sorry to pop in here, but I was just looking at other forums and this post popped out at me, so here I am. I am a SAHM, I had a career before babies. I would like to say something, and if I offend anyone sorry, here goes. first of all we are all moms here, and we need to stick together. All moms have the most important job in the world. That is being a mother, but I am really surprised that people think that SAHMs have it easier. I had a friend that works and thought I had it so easy, I tried to explain to her that it is not as easy as it seems. So to prove me wrong she took a week off work and told me that her house would be spotless, homecooked meals, and quality time with her child. She lasted 2 days. She now has alot of respect for me. No one should judge anyone else. I think that some working moms are jealous of SAHMs because they get to be with their children all day, I think some SAHM are jealous because working moms get to be out in the world with other adults. I think that everyone needs to chill out and let it go. But one comment on that SAHMs children watch more t.v, that was rude and uncalled for. You don't know what it is to be in other people shoes, so don't try and understand others lives. Thank-you ↑ |
| Name: dantenh | Date: Aug 17th, 2006 8:41 PM |
| Until I had my 3rd child (5 weeks ago) I worked 45 plus hours a week. The only reason at this point that I am home is because my boss refused to give me a much earned raise, and transfered me 30 miles away and with gas at 3 dollars a gallon and daycare for 2 children it wasn't financially worth it for me to continue to work there. I am thoroughly enjoying being with the kids, I get up every morning and make breakfast for everyone, dress the kids, cart the oldest to school, come home, play with the middle, and cuddle the baby. Its great, but there were aspects of working that I enjoyed too. First of all its nice to have adult friends! I am so tired at this point of watching wonderpets, wonderpets, on their way, to save a baby kitten and save the day..yadda yadda yadda! Some people have looked down onmoms with their kids in daycare. both of mine were, the oldest while I was in college an the middle so i can work. I chose excellent daycares that had an excellent preschool curriculum, my oldest started school early and is gifted in two subjects and my 4 year old ican spell a dozen or so words and writes and identifies all letters and sounds and was denied for preK because she was too "smart". I have been lucky enough to live both lives. And neither one is wrong. Just different. ↑ |
| Name: dantenh | Date: Aug 17th, 2006 8:44 PM |
| The only reason moms feel they have to work is to pay for their 500K homes, cell phones, cable, new cars, keeping up with the Jones, etc. (luxurys that society has deemed as necessity) oh sorry, just an addition, the one who said we work just to have our expensive house and stuff.....I worked so I could keep my 60,000 dollar house, my 40 dollar prepaid cell phone, gas for my 500 dollar beat up minivan, oh yeah, and my sanity lol. screw the joneses, I want to keep up with the creditors lol. ↑ |
| Name: drusylla_83 | Date: Aug 18th, 2006 10:15 PM |
| The old stay-at-home mom debate. Personally, I am a stay at home mom. My husband and I would not be able to afford daycare even if I did work. I can't believe how expensive it is! However, I have the upmost respect for moms that DO work. Why? I honestly do believe they have it harder than a stay at home mom. They have to get up early with the kids to get them ready, go to work, pick up the kids, come home, clean house, make dinner, help with homework, etc. I can only imagine how much more hectic it would be if the kids had busy schedules! Some families can get away with just one parent working and that's fine. Others can't and that's fine, too. Who am I to judge the situation? As long as the kids are taken care of and loved, I don't see why it really matters. I applaud you working moms for doing what you do. ↑ |
| Name: mommyagain | Date: Aug 19th, 2006 2:06 AM |
| Thank you, drusylla_83 , I post mostly in SAHM forum yet I am a very much working mom. Honestly if I could i would stay home but I just cant so it makes me feel like crap when people make out like we (working moms) are not as good of mothers for not being home. The only reason I can work and pay for daycare is becasue I have 4-C help since my ex husband doesnt pay squat. ↑ |
| Name: jamberrt | Date: Aug 29th, 2006 8:22 PM |
| Yes well...circumstances change. My husband and I were married 10 years and were childless. Not by choice. After several miscarriages and my whole world being turned upside down by money spent on infertility treatments, we adopted. Now I "palm my children off" to daycare. HOWEVER... they are safer coming home to me everyday they are loved in a forever family I'm working to pay for treatments that didn't work and that's almost 10 years ago. So? I could stay at home and be in debt forever or I choose to work part time and pay off that debt so my husband and I can both have family time with the children we so desired to have to create our family of 4. We had people tell us we shouldn't have adopted because we struggle financially...tell that to my children. One in a horrible foster home. One in a great foster home that couldn't keep him past his first birthday. Hurray to the families, whatever their situation, who make it work by making their children feel loved and secure. Susan ↑ |
| Name: Stardreams | Date: Aug 30th, 2006 8:23 PM |
| I have seen the benifits to both sides of this... Some moms, are better moms when they have time away from their children working, and are able to give them everything when they are at home with them. They can't manage being a SAHM at all. This way they can do both things they thoroughly love, to the best of their abilities. We all do what we can, and what we feel is best for our children - but also for ourselves too, since if we don't take care of ourselves we wont be able to be there for our kids to the degree they need us to be. I am a single mom of three, and am also a SAHM. I pinch every penny possible to be able to provide this for my children. This year I will also be homeschooling my 4th grade son. My children are my life though, and where my heart lies. My income is watch others children - one little girl I've had in my care full time since she was six weeks old, she's now seven months... and attempts to bounce out of my arms with a giggly smile when she sees her mom at the end of the day. I pass no judgement onto others though. I have seen the roughness of both sides. We do what we can to provide. What is best for us as well as our children. It doesn't take away how much we love and cherish though, nor our qualifications for being a parent. ↑ |
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| Name: LALA | Date: Sep 3rd, 2007 11:37 AM |
| There is that and then there is the mere fact that some people have to work not keep up with the Jones's.....but in the end for the sake of her little darling as there is no mother or parent that wants to kids to long for anything so if it means we have to work then so be it. It pains us also because let me tell you this if i could help it i would stay at home and raise my kids and then return to work by the way i am a mom in mining (Environmental Engineering & Occupational Hygiene) ↑ |
| Name: Avrill | Date: Sep 3rd, 2007 11:42 AM |
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| Name: Allie | Date: Sep 7th, 2007 10:32 PM |
| I take my little girl to work with me and still make more then my husband. It is ok to be a working mom. this is not the 50's ↑ |
| Name: julia | Date: Oct 18th, 2007 12:40 AM |
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| Name: ava | Date: Sep 10th, 2008 1:50 AM |
| if you are a stay at home mom then i feel like you need to be able to pick up the financial responsibilities should anything happen to your husband tomorrow. what irritates me the most about comments like yours is the fact that they are coming from moms who pretend they are financially set when in reality they cannot pick up the financial costs should something happen to the working spouse. which would therefore make the children suffer down the road. dad loses job...no insurance....child gets sick...skyrocket medical costs....if you can say that you can cover hospital bills should ur husband lose job...then i will let you ride your high horse but otherwise..don't pretend that you are a stay at home mom who is thinking only about your kids....thinking about your kids is being able to provide for them should something happen to working spouse! when you don't consider these then you are not a responsible parent ↑ |
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| Name: Jenny | Date: Jun 16th, 2009 2:57 AM |
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| Name: Jenny | Date: Jun 16th, 2009 3:05 AM |
| I stand by my original statement, the happier child is the child of a happy parent, but after reading some responses I have to throw this in: I made sacrifices to stay at home with my older children, now 14 and 10. I went without a car. I lived in a crap apartment. I learned to cut coupons and go without quite a bit. I was not expecting to have more children. I bought a house and a car so I could provide better for the children I have that are now in school. I'm pregant again. If I quit my job to stay at home there will be no way to pay insurance, house payment, car payment, etc. This isn't about an extra grand in the bank or keeping up with the Jones'. If it were the choice would be simple. Its about providing for my family. I can't make those sacrifices now without making my children suffer. As a preschool teacher I know that children of working parents can have healthy, happy children who thrive in childcare. Its time we stop judging eachother and stop being so damn high and mighty with our choices and start helping eachother out. Posts like these disappoint me, I thought we had progressed beyond these kinds of debates since my children were babies. Instead its the same old BS. ↑ |
| Name: Katc01 | Date: Aug 10th, 2009 6:11 AM |
| Just wanted to contribute to this conversation by saying that as women and mothers we need to encourage, uplift and help one another. I think we should pat each other on the back and tell each other we are doing a great job whether you work out of the house or in. Debating the merits of going to work or staying at home is never going to be helpful because we all have our reasons for doing what we do. Respect that and support it. I am a stay at home mum at the moment but I will go back to work next year when my little man is at school. I just want to say that each and every one of you I know is doing what they think is best for their children and what more can you ask of a parent. ↑ |
| Name: Mamasaurus.net | Date: Sep 22nd, 2009 2:55 AM |
| Each mother does whats right for their family and their children. If you stay home thats great and if you work thats great too. We all love our children and do whats best for them:) ↑ |
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| Name: Working Mom from California | Date: Aug 7th, 2010 3:31 PM |
| Angel of Mine, We know it's not about you really staying with your child 24/7. You just don't want to work! That's what it is really about! You use the kid's as an excuse, and certainly wouldn't mind if your husband worked 80 hours a week, if it meant you could stay at home and not have a boss! Everybody is catching on to your scam's, and as soon as this economy takes another dive, many of you fake non working mom's, who have no job's, will be in for the shock of your lives, as you are now faced to showing up and checking in with a boss every day like the rest of us! It's a disgrace that you women get away with what you do, especially to the women who have kids, and work full time, which is about 93% of the population worldwide. Get a clue you spoiled brat! ↑ |
